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[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 24 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Explanation: The Nazis were, formally, the National Socialist German Workers' Party. Some people take this to mean that the Nazis were, in some meaningful way, 'left' or socialist.

The truth is that they were neither. The name was made to appeal to the working-class by feigning interest in workers' issues, but the Nazis drew overwhelmingly from, and addressed the pet issues of, the disaffected middle class. While there were less capitalist-friendly factions in the party (notably, the working-class SA and the Strasserists), they were not what we would recognize as left-wing, instead representing a distinctly reactionary take on opposition to capitalism more in-line with Catholic conservatives expressing resentment of the bourgeoisie in the 19th century.

Those less-capitalist-friendly factions were suppressed in favor of Hitler's alliance with land magnates and capitalists in 1934, and so became moot in any case.

[–] DivineDev@piefed.social 5 points 13 hours ago

"suppressed" as in "purged", btw. Several leading members of the SA/Strasserists were murdered during the Night of the Long Knives.

[–] Zombiepirate@lemmy.world 19 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

It's hard to know if the dipshits who say this are really that stupid or if they're ideological zombies just saying what they think will win an argument in the moment.

But I think it's both.

[–] lobut@lemmy.ca 5 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

When Benny Shaps says it, I think it's about winning an argument but it's so hard to tell. I can imagine some people living in their bubble for so long that they start believing their own crap.

[–] Zombiepirate@lemmy.world 6 points 14 hours ago

Yeah, I think there's a distinction between the "intellectuals" and the rank-and-file idiots.

Shapiro once insisted that his wife told him vaginas should be bone-dry to win an argument, so I think you're right there.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 5 points 13 hours ago

It's both, but not always both at the same time.

There are the lead grifters who are in it for clicks, then there are the poor dumbasses who really think this is the answer to their vague feelings of anger and frustration.

But it's a sliding scale; there's a whole lot of combos in between.

[–] Mrkawfee@feddit.uk 10 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

It's like how the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation is in fact a death squad that uses food as a lure for hunger games style massacres.

[–] Denjin@feddit.uk 7 points 14 hours ago

Or how any country that specifically puts "Democratic" in its name is anything but.

[–] ramble81@lemmy.zip 7 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Omg. If they believe that, and they believe that they’re the “right” wtf do they believe that’s more conservative than being a Nazi?!