Absolutely unacceptable and ridiculous.
this post was submitted on 02 Aug 2025
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The EU still wants to scan all your chats – and the rules could come into force by October 2025
(www.techradar.com)
Keep them informed, of course they care about your opinion, especially seeing how anyplace else in the world where such things were introduced there were successful revolutions and people doing that ended up in jail. Oops.
Agree
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Ugh, this shit again...
Are there any initiatives out there to call a stop to this? Or even better, initiatives to introduce legislation that forbids setting up this kind of surveillance infrastructure altogether?
Patrick Breyer with the pirate party is my go to example of why small parties and extraparliamentary opposition is important. 99% of the people don't even know him and he's just doing such an sucessful job of protecting them anyway.
Thank you for helping us stop chat control! We from the Swedish Pirate Party are strongly against this!
Your local Pirate Party and organizations like Bits of Freedom can help out.
The annoying thing is that some states like Germany pretty much prohibit surveillance of this extend by constitution. It couldn‘t be made any harder for a legislation like this to pass and yet they keep trying.
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It's not the EU yet. It's a group of activists from Denmark. There wasn't even preliminary voting on it yet.
Doesn't mean we need to be complacent of course, but so far nothing happened.
STASI enters the chat.
Hey at least Stasi only spied on people they suspected.
That's due to the limitation at the time.
Their kind never leaves the chat, it's a professional habit
They won't.
If you're a citizen of an EU country, you should contact your politicians to tell them not to, maybe they won't.
It only has to pass once, and they keep trying.
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Thank god my OS doesn't care about EU regulation
Your OS doesn't, put the messaging apps that your friends/family/coworkers use do.
And no, you can't convince them to switch messager, I tried.
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So, need a non-homicidal, non-EU country to run an XMPP server then...
So Canada?
(They do have a history of going a little overboard with the homicidal stuff. But they've come a long way in the last few decades.)
A lot overboard, really. There is a long way to go for truth and reconciliation.
As for data safety, its not looking too great: https://tuta.com/blog/canada-bill-c2-surveillance
Oh ffs... my best VPN server is in Canada lol
I'd almost say lol, get a VPS in China.
The enemy of my enemy is my friend, and they have zero say over what I do, only what they do. China could demand and scream and bitch all they want over an encrypted set of programs and you'd never have to care, move to another domain and provider and copy-paste. Lock it down, only use it with encryption and let the wolves huff and puff until they're blue in the face.
It's more about the latency since it's right over the border (<30ms). It's also a full 10Gbps so I can let family/friends use it and don't have to worry if a few of them are pulling the full 1Gbps from home connection. Doubt I'm gonna be able to match both of those with a Chinese VPS :/
Honestly looking at Mexican datacenters right now. Some are basically the same distance, just in the opposite direction lol
Mexico actually sounds kinda brilliant, but who seems important. OVH has servers in Mexico, but I can imagine some hosters would get the Feds on the line and go "sure, here's his data".
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or run one by yourself?
...run a country by myself? I suppose it's possible.
Where do I apply for citizenship? Non-resident citizen, as I still need to work to survive 😕
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Compelling search engines to deindex results, age verification, chat monitoring: stay golden, EU.
The fuck is happening over there? Was there lead in the water?
Authoritarianism, duh. It’s a global thing.
You're answering the how, but I'm asking for the why. 😅
Financial issues among the general populace due to consolidation of wealth > oligarchs create propaganda that brown people are to blame > uneducated masses vote for authoritarians with empty promises
It's the same program human civilisation has know for millenia
Evil people doing evil things because they’re evil. They want more than they have any right to and are willing to throw everyone else under the bus.
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Probably
Wtf. Is Signal going to be affected? I just recently installed Signal on my phone.
Signal has already stated that they will pull out of the UK if they go through with their version of this, I imagine they'll say the same for the EU.
Get a good VPN, exit it from a non-5 eyes country, and hope they don't start blocking by phone number alone.... and hopefully they'll drop the phone number requirement sooner than later.
Also, welcome to Signal!
~~I think they already dropped the phone number req, not sure though~~
No, still required. However, you can have a username of sorts to give to people and block finding you by phone number in the platform.
Ah, that's what I was thinking of then
Encryption. Is easy.
you know this means they get the keys, right?
Is the EU not subject to GDPR?
time to make my own shitty ass software to deal with this stuff
Let us know when it's ready for Alpha testing. Most of us will gladly give it a shot and help iron it out.
The never stop trying. Fucking incompetent dumm politicians.
I'm starting to edit idcaboutprivacy more and more often (and that's not a good thing)
I like the comapirson i heared at Anne Roths(https://systemli.social/@anneroth) talk(German):
You would never say: I don't need free speech because I have nothing to say. Everyone profits from data privacy and free speech and some people are depending on their life on it.
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