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[–] NarrativeBear@lemmy.world 136 points 1 day ago (5 children)

A bunch of schools get shot up, nothing happens.

A Tesla spontaneously catches fire, domestic terrorism!

[–] WarmRegards@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 day ago

A proper response from Burgerland.

'Murica!

[–] j0ester@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

Will somebody pleaseeee protect these corporations!!!!?

[–] dryfter@lemm.ee 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Not only schools, there are whole neighborhoods in most cities that are nothing less than a war zone with people involved being younger and younger. Why should gangs risk jail when they can recruit bored teens or tweens to do their dirty work and not be charged as adults?

But a few damaged Teslas are a problem?

[–] aaron@infosec.pub 15 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

A capitol building, too, if I remember correctly.

This presidency is debasing every institution it touches. It is built on the corruption of the courts, or he wouldn't be in power at all.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 7 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Where are these neighborhoods? Do you know what urban warfare actually looks like? Have you seen footage of Gaza for example?

[–] dryfter@lemm.ee 2 points 1 hour ago

You make a good point. Maybe I’ve fallen into the trap of seeing street after street of boarded up buildings and hearing of houses being hit by stray bullets every couple of months and thinking it is a war zone.

I’ve never witnessed an actual war zone and can only go by images and videos I’ve seen. Maybe the better term is “areas with frequent gang activity that could mean innocent bystanders could get hit with a bullet”?

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 103 points 1 day ago (4 children)

"Terrorism" has no meaning when it's used by a fascist terror state. It's always been just a political slur against the other team's violence.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 32 points 1 day ago

Not even violence. Against any dissenting thought.

[–] Mustakrakish@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And not violence, when it comes to destroying inanimate objects

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

any criticism of the fascist state is the worst kind of violence and is obviously terrorism worthy of torture, or worse /s

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 9 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

In a Nazi government, "terrorism" is just another word for resistance. Just look what happened in Nazi Germany back then. Kids were executed for distributing pamphlets.

[–] fnrir@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 19 hours ago

In Luigi we trust.

[–] MunkysUnkEnz0@lemmy.world 52 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Laws should be applied equally. What's up with the J6 protesters? They get pardons, but if you touch a Tesla, 20 years in Gitmo,

Who's gonna stop this clown show? It's not gonna end in anything but bloodshed.

[–] Tezzerets_Tea_Time@lemmy.world 21 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

I'm worried MAGA has genuinely been working to make things so bad that the civil war they've been salivating for becomes the only possible outcome. I genuinely starting to wonder if we can restore any semblance of sanity to this country without violence entering the equation.

[–] watson387@sopuli.xyz 10 points 16 hours ago

Oh we're way beyond that point...

[–] Doom@ttrpg.network 3 points 2 hours ago

people forget Christians are a doomsday cult

they genuinely want the end of days, that's what their whole thing is about

[–] misteloct@lemmy.world 47 points 23 hours ago (4 children)

It's literally legal to blow up a Tesla. Jan 6 pardons set the legal precedent that organized terrorism involving property damage is just fine. Carry on vandals. I do not condone or reject your actions but I do understand them to be legal.

[–] Fiivemacs@lemmy.ca 23 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Pretty sure laws don't exist in the us anymore anyways...

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 11 points 21 hours ago

More to the point, laws there are made up as they go along. Now I know that all laws are made up, but in the US today, it's literally "that law is what I make it to be today, tomorrow it might be something else"

Precedent means shit in an environment like that

[–] Steve@startrek.website 14 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Crimes against persons/police officers were also pardoned

[–] misteloct@lemmy.world 9 points 17 hours ago

Important to remember this when we consider the relative morality of Tesla vandals. So far I haven't heard of anyone getting hurt so I think it's pretty mild.

[–] aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 hours ago

it's only legal if you are a MAGA cunt.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 39 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Does insurance even pay out for "acts of terrorism"..?

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 45 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Some interesting things came to my attention recently.

One, there was a headline about the guy who got caught setting fire to Teslas at a dealership, saying that he had caused "$5 million in damage." For setting a few things on fire? Really?

Then, my HOA insurance policy renewal came across my desk (for the HOA, I'm on the board). I'm looking over all the details in the quote and I find some things about a federal program to insure against terrorism. This section explained how, in 2020, the requirement that the perpetrator be a "foreign agent" was dropped. Guess what wasn't dropped: the requirement that the damage must be at least $5 million. There is a portion of the insurance premium that goes to pay for this program (its own insurance premium that's handled through the insurance company). It's $80/year.

Ever wonder why they're so keen on classifying these as terrorism? Sure, the authoritarianism is a big part of it, but the other part is that it lets them get paid more money, from the federal government. Call it terrorism, say there was more than $5M in damages, get paid.

[–] WhyDoYouPersist@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago

This is incredibly insightful, thanks.

[–] errer@lemmy.world 8 points 23 hours ago

As usual for pretty much anything in the US: follow the money. The dollar rules everything else.

[–] Eheran@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Good point! I believe usually not?

[–] nokturne213@sopuli.xyz 36 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The domestic terrorism designation could give law enforcement sweeping authority to surveil people protesting against Elon Musk's role in the US federal government, civil liberties experts warn.

[–] variaatio@sopuli.xyz 18 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Which is exactly why people were "this is going to bite us in the behind", when patriot act and so on was originally done and so on.

Way easier to change "who is terrorist", than "give us authorization to do this new thing" in the first place.

[–] alkbch@lemmy.ml 3 points 17 hours ago

It’s crazy that many provisions from the Patriot Act are still in effect today.

[–] Honse@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 23 hours ago

Yes everyone who plans to attend a Tesla Takedown protest should fully read effs guide to attending a protest. Protect yourself from political retaliation by staying anonymous!

[–] 800XL@lemmy.world 13 points 8 hours ago

It matters because ya'll hurting wannabe Lex Luther whose face is being eaten by leopards.

Fuck Elon.

[–] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 11 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Burn a few and get a little satisfaction. Burn some more and you get some more satisfaction. Burn 'em all and you get complete satisfaction.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 5 points 4 hours ago

Automate their burnination and you get a satisfactory!

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 1 points 2 hours ago

Burn 1 its vandalism Burn 10000 its a statistic

[–] Dragomus@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Everything is terrorism to the fearful ones at the top...

[–] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 10 points 1 day ago

If Billionaire ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT TAKING YOUR JOB Elon Musk was the President it would be REALLY CORRUPT to label Anything making him Sad Domestic Terrorism!