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[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 228 points 5 days ago (21 children)

It's almost like Substack has a Nazi problem and has for years.

Stop pretending substack isn't a Nazi platform, because they actively support Nazi propaganda on their site and have refused to take it down or commit to keeping it off their platform.

Substack is run by Nazi supporters at the very least, which should be enough for people to flee in droves, but more people are ok with Nazis than we want to admit.

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 26 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Yes, this has come up repeatedly over the years.

The problem is that it is really the only viable platform for independent articles/blogs these days. That is already a ridiculously small potential audience (people who can read AND people who are willing to pay for content). Cutting out the one platform that got any traction is as good as quitting.

It is similar to why businesses (which is what we are talking about) couldn't leave twitter until like a year and a half ago or whenever bluesky went open sign ups. Yeah, it is a platform owned by nazis and infested with them but... it is also the only way to advertise said businesses and have any hope of surviving. That said, once bluesky gained traction there is absolutely zero reason to not, at the very least, diversify (preferably dropping musknet entirely).

For Substack? Ghost is an increasingly viable platform. But just look around here for any time someone posts a link to a 404 media article and you get "Ugh. Fucking scammers want to rugpull and steal all my personal information" for... wanting ANY email to be used for a free account to just limit the impact of bot/ai scraping.

Its less that "more people are ok with Nazis than we want to admit"... especially considering many of the people on substack are talking about said fucking Nazis. The problem is that "fewer people are willing to support independent media than we want to admit". It is the same logic of "if I like a youtube channel I'll give them money on their patreon" that is patently flawed.

[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

But just look around here for any time someone posts a link to a 404 media article and you get "Ugh. Fucking scammers want to rugpull and steal all my personal information" for... wanting ANY email to be used for a free account to just limit the impact of bot/ai scraping.

I don't want to create a fucking account on every single fucking website I enter to read a shit article about some random bullshit

That's just making the internet even shittier place than it already is. Telling your readers to eat a hatful because scrapers are not respecting robots.txt? Please step on lego

[–] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 7 points 5 days ago

404 media doesn't make you create an account, they just send you a link to your email, but having to create a throwaway email every time so they can't track what I read is a hassle I just don't care enough for. I'll either skip the article or use a proxy.

[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

So true, but I think Patreon will be the place to submit my articles. I deleted my Substack over this. You can make your post free and offer paid teirs what I do.

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Good on you even if I hate Patreon's usability for just about anything

But if you haven't already, I would recommend doing some research about why so many writers/creators have stuck with substack. I want to say Aaron Rupar actually talked about this and I would be shocked if the 404/Aftermath crews didn't. I remember reading and basically nodding my head and acknowledging it was all way above my head but... these are the people who would both know and care.

[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago

Yeah but it would require me to go to Substack and I won't do that.

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[–] Agrajag@scribe.disroot.org 51 points 5 days ago (3 children)

You gotta be a real sicko to have the substack app installed and on top of that have their push notifications enabled

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[–] cabbage@piefed.social 50 points 5 days ago (3 children)

NEW - Solar geoengineering researchers conspired to hide tests to dim the Sun to "avoid scaring" the public.

aha.

Anyway, nice to see the famous Substack network effects in full swing.

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 35 points 5 days ago (1 children)

researchers conspired to hide tests to dim the Sun to "avoid scaring" the public.

Because if there's one thing you can hide, it's dimming the one thing that brings heat and light to the planet.

[–] Fermion@feddit.nl 12 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

Ignoring conspiracy theory stuff, people aren't very good at perceiving changes in light levels if they happen gradually. During any solar eclipse there are wide bands where only a partial eclipse is observed. It's pretty common for people in those bands to not notice that something has changed even with 50% occlusion.

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 13 points 5 days ago (1 children)

You're right when talking about the average person with nothing but their eyes. But there are tons of companies and members of the public that have bits of tech that would call that out easily. Solar panels, environmental logging equipment, etc, would notice the drop in light levels fairly easily, and would be apparent when reviewing historical vs current levels, and the power grids would definitely notice the sun dimming dropping their power outputs.

Without going into conspiracy theory territory, there's no realistic way to hide that from the public.

[–] Fermion@feddit.nl 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Definitely, any changes natural or anthropogenic would be measured and to great accuracy. I just wanted to point out that the notion of the general public, especially if conditioned to distrust scientists and authorities, not noticing changes isn't the outlandish part. See global warming denial despite years of record setting temperatures.

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago

I just wanted to point out that the notion of the general public, especially if conditioned to distrust scientists and authorities, not noticing changes isn't the outlandish part.

I figured, which is why I framed my comment the way I did. You may be able to discount the scientists, but can you discount them, plus citizens complaining about their solar output, power plants having to raise rates due to falling solar generation, crop impacts, and even just other citizens posting raw data all coming out with similar data over time saying it's a problem?

Having said that and looking at the state of climate change, I have a hard time not seeing the parallels against my argument. But falling solar output would have a much more immediate effect on us than climate change (and would likely reverse it to some extent).

[–] AstralPath@lemmy.ca 5 points 5 days ago (4 children)

I'd chalk that up to the assumption that a cloud has partially or fully obscured the sun. If clouds weren't a thing, we'd be much more sensitive to light changes as they wouldn't be a part of our outdoor experience.

I'm not checking to see if the sun is still there every time the ambient light outside dims, y'know what I mean?

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[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 20 points 5 days ago (2 children)

You'd think that of all people, white supremacists would applaud anything that prevents their skin from getting darker.

[–] cabbage@piefed.social 12 points 5 days ago

Beware of increasingly white supremacists.

[–] grysbok@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 5 days ago

You'd think that, but I've had the command "get a tan for God's sake you're transparent" used as an insult against me. You can be too white for white supremacists.

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[–] unphazed@lemmy.world 39 points 5 days ago (3 children)

I really really hate that they call themselves a socialist party... like the KKK calling themselves Racial Unity.

[–] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Teeeeeeeeeeechnically, the term is correct, the Nazi regime did offer socialist benefits... Only for those they considered "nationals", hence NatSoc.

Socialism alone does not guarantee democracy nor freedom of speech, it is strictly a financial system where the means of production are owned by society. The prefix "national" then defines who that society is.

[–] unphazed@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago

And yet it is used as the bogeyman anytime someone mentions the dirty word "socialism" in the US. Despite the fact that Socialism at this point would have to be better better than the crony capitalism we have now.

Socialism for white people only I guess?

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[–] custard_swollower@lemmy.world 29 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Some countries have pretty strict laws about not promoting Nazi ideology - by pushing that notifications it would probably be breaking that law.

[–] cabbage@piefed.social 27 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Oh yeah. Circulating random swastika-labelled push notifications talking about a sickness that "aflicks (?) all Jews" is a pretty big no-no in most, if not all, of the civilized world.

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[–] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 28 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Can we talk about "afflicks" Choosing to spell like a 4 year old when spell check is pervasively available...

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[–] peregrin5@piefed.social 24 points 5 days ago

i feel like I've never heard anything about substack and then all of a sudden out of nowhere i was hearing about it everywhere. never used it. now that I know it has a nazi/far-right problem, staying away from it by at least 1000 miles

[–] r4venw@sh.itjust.works 15 points 5 days ago (1 children)
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[–] CoffeeJunkie@lemmy.cafe 9 points 4 days ago (2 children)

LOL... "Aflicks". He actually typed that out, and was like YEP aflicks is totally a word, send it! Idiot.

[–] Hobo@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Sounds like the dollar store version of Ben Affleck, Bin Aflick.

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[–] fluxion@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago

Trying to go the Elon Musk approach. Ballsy.

[–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 9 points 4 days ago

I get permitting these blogs as part of a commitment to avoid censorship - someone with non-mainstream but far less extreme opinions can look at them and say "If Substack doesn't censor even these guys, it definitely won't censor me." With that said, I'm still surprised that Substack apparently doesn't manually curate its push notifications.

[–] Coldgoron@lemmy.zip 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I looked for months for negatives to substack before starting my publications there. This is all news to me. Looking at the alternatives costing the creators a fee for zero subscribers leaves me with no choice but to stay for the moment being also. Hopefully a real contender pops up soon.

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