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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (6 children)

Dog brings you things because you asked, it's asking to play, or because they wanted to reward you.

Cat brings you things because it thinks you fucking suck at hunting and feeding yourself.

[–] far_university1990@reddthat.com 0 points 1 month ago

"I take care of my human. I bring them mouse once a week, twice after new moon because so dark. Hope they survive on that."

[–] saltesc@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

My dog gives me stuff all the time. At first I thought it meant he wanted to play with the object, but, nope. He's just spent the last fifteen minutes fighting the other dog away from it, running around the house with it in his mouth. Then when he's finally "won", he gently places it down right in front of me, sits and stares at my eyes, "This is very important to us dogs, but I love you the most, so you can have it."

picks up slobbered cow hoof with a pinch "Thank you so much, buddy! How about I hold it, you can chew; we can share."

He does do this with the other dog at times too, though. Usually when she's calmed down and snoozing, he'll bring a treat over to her, watch her accept it, and goes on his way.

Gifting is his love language.

[–] sukhmel@programming.dev 0 points 1 month ago (3 children)

My cat sometimes brings toys because it wants to play. That doesn't happen too often, though

[–] mybuttnolie@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

my other cat is extremely ADHD and he brings me toys many times a day. he runs from the other side of the apartment screaming with the toy in his mouth and then sits next to me until i throw that toy. also if we're away for several hours he delivers toys on our bed.

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

My one cat fetches things like 80% of the way. Sure drops them a meter and half in front of me every single time

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[–] faythofdragons@slrpnk.net 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

My cat has figured out how to pantomime chasing the dot as his way of asking me to break out the laser pointer.

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[–] starlinguk@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

My cat played fetch, just like a dog. Cats like playing.

I hate it when people just assume stuff about cats, treat them that way, and then say stuff like 'cats are so aloof and they only like me because I feed them.'

Meanwhile, my neighbour's cat loves my family even though we don't feed her, because we snuggle her. The person who feeds her just chucks her outside when she gets home. And then she comes to us for scritches.

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[–] Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

Am science. Can confirm.

[–] I_Fart_Glitter@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I mean, she knows I'm much better than her at opening wet food cans.

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

“This cat is awful, but I’ll keep it around because it knows how to open the food stones.”

[–] alzymologist@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 month ago

I'm not so sure my cats and dogs identify as different species tbh

[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Eh, any time someone ascribes motivations to animals, my butthole spasms.

The best that should be said is that the behaviors they exhibit are similar to the behaviors they exhibit for kittens or sometimes sick cats.

Somehow, somebody decided that meant they think we're bad hunters, and the idea took off because it's funny, but you can't know what goes on inside the thoughts of other humans reliably, much less other animals.

There's competing possibilities that the cats are showing off their kills to their social group, which is not only a common behavior when cats are young, but when they're mated, but you don't see people crowing about them bringing us food to get in our pants.

Overall, cats seem to treat us like other cats. Not exactly the same, but with less distinction than other domesticated animals. Horses, as an example, have a much wider distinction, for equally unprovable reasons.

My personal pet idea is that any sufficiently social animal, including humans, is instinctively going to seek out groups. They/we will negotiate the lack of a unifying language as best as possible, but with plenty of misunderstandings. It isn't so much that other animals see us as being the same as them. It's that they don't really have the need for the distinction; there's the in group (pride, pack, clan, whatever you want to call it) and out groups. When dealing with the family group, any animal will perform the same basic behaviors that their instincts tell them to.

Domestication just means that a given type of animal has developed or been bred to have, a stronger instinct for social bonding than wild animals, to the degree that they'll accept other species as family easier.

[–] leftytighty@slrpnk.net 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

To add to this, an outside observer would say humans think their pets are little humans, throwing birthday parties, dressing them in clothing, talking to them.

[–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

Well, some do seem to think that.

[–] MajorMajormajormajor@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You can pry Mr. Scruffles' humanity from my cold, dead hands!

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 month ago

No, Mr Scruffles commits tax evasion

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

I think the difference between cats and dogs is mainly tens of thousands of additional years of co-operative evolution. Cats are amazing but dogs you can almost assume can understand your emotions and care, that comes from the absurd length of time dogs and humans have been friends, it is a relationship that far predates other domestication by an immense length of time.

[–] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 month ago

It's also worth noting that there's good evidence that cats self-domesticated, much more than dogs did. This will also have an impact on the relationship, with cats basically doing cat things for us on their terms and dogs doing dog things for us on our terms.

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[–] floo@retrolemmy.com 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Cats also know that you’re there. They just don’t give a fuck.

[–] starlinguk@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] johsny@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)
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[–] NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 1 month ago (5 children)

All I'll say is cats meow at humans and they don't meow at other cats except their own mom. To me this instantly defeats this take.

It's just a fun post though so I'm not judging.

[–] Droggelbecher@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I kind of am judging. Misrepresenting how science works and what it can and can't do ia a dangerous game on the age of intentional misinformation. Even if you're just trying to be cute and fun.

[–] NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 1 month ago

You know what, you're right, framing it as a "scientific discovery" isn't cool.

[–] starlinguk@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Cats meow at other cats besides their mother too. It's a complete myth that they don't.

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[–] fodor@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 month ago

How to say you are not a cat owner without saying you are not a cat owner.

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I have 2 cats. One of them meows at people, cats, dogs, birds, butterflies, toys...

The other only meows when she's suffering horrible torture, like being picked up, or needing to scratch at the door the times without it opening.

[–] leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Is the first one a siamese..?

Extremely chatty critters, those...

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago

They're both "european shorthairs" we got from the pound. But she might be, she's definitely chatty and mean like one.

I'm not backing the take itself, as other said it is widely extrapolation, but i don't really understand how the fact that cats meowing only/mostly at their mom and humans would invalidate the theory that humans and cats are the same category in cats' minds, since they use it for both cats and humans. It could indicate that they consider humans kinda like parents cats or just parents, maybe, but i don't see how it indicates that they could consider humans as non cats.

[–] Naich@lemmings.world 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

You shouldn't put the words "cats" and "think" in the same sentence.

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Correct - cats don't "think", they know. An infalliblity of thought obtained through the kind of instinctual perfection which only cats are enlightened enough to possess.

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[–] InvalidName2@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I have doubts that any credible and serious scientific discovery would involve this degree of anthropomorphism when it comes to assigning motivation to an animal's behavior.

But let's say I ended up with a hecking case of brain worms who devoured the vast majority of my critical thinking skills and was able to completely ignore that first point, this still doesn't quite compute. If you've ever had cats and/or dogs in your life, then you are probably also aware that each one has its own unique personality and behaviors. Even if we assume that they have human-like rationalizations and emotional capacity, does it even make sense to believe that they all uniformly perceive people in the same uniform manner?

[–] Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I have doubts that any credible and serious scientific discovery would involve this degree of anthropomorphism when it comes to assigning motivation to an animal's behavior.

But let's say I ended up with a hecking case of brain worms who devoured the vast majority of my critical thinking skills and was able to completely ignore that first point, this still doesn't quite compute.

This part was very obnoxious and not needed fyi.

[–] Bo7a@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 month ago (3 children)

In all fairness. That is exactly how I feel about your reply.

And now my own.

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[–] davitz@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I mean, he's walking through his very solid reasoning for why the headline fails the sniff test, despite being a factoid that is frequently repeated through many channels by many people.

People talk all the time about how we need to strengthen critical thinking skills in the general public. Outside of formal training, this is what that looks like: a culture of publicly explaining the thought process that leads you to question something that many others have accepted without question. The knee jerk reaction of criticizing such statements as rude or overly negative is a big part of why these skills have such a hard time spreading, since people who have the skills feel it's not socially acceptable to share their conclusions.

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[–] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 0 points 1 month ago (4 children)

It's based on way too many reinterpretations of descriptions of studies into how cats communicate. Basically cats without human interaction will only meow as kittens communicating to their mom and their mother might meow back, and as they grow older they will learn to communicate with each other purely by body language and pheramones. Cats who interact with humans have learned that meowing at us like kittens gets our attention and is effective at communicating with us.

Some have interpreted that to mean cats see us as really strange kittens, which of course gets miscommunicated by well meaning people repeating something they half-remember. It seems the reality is just cats have learned to adjust their behavior to better coexist with humans.

Impressively, cats and their humans also will develop complex enough communication that humans can interpret the need of the cat purely from their meow

At least this is my memory of research I half-remember reading about

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[–] PyroNeurosis@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Is that how it works? I've had dogs try breeding my leg, cats not so much. That anecdote presents an opposite case.

[–] leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 month ago

Cats have standards.

[–] djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

You clearly weren't interacting with horny cats.

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[–] Licksrocks@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

My cat hates every other cat it meets, but loves every person it meets. I think it knows the difference.

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[–] nonentity@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Dogs have owners.
Cats have staff.

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[–] elbiter@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Dogs can't even tell if you launched the stick or not...

[–] pulsewidth@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Nor can kids up to age 5 if you're good at deception.

Cats can't tell the difference between a real object moving on a surface and a beam of light..

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