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[–] Nougat@fedia.io 54 points 1 day ago (2 children)

A bushcraft trick is to dig a shallow trench, build a fire in it. When you've got coals, cover them over with dirt and sleep on top of that. I'd bet that goes back a looooong way.

[–] naught101@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Probably better to use hot rocks unless you've got good ventilation, otherwise carbon monoxide poisoning

[–] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 25 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I feel like being outside would blow away the small amounts of CO produced by coals (instead of an active fire).

[–] Neverclear@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

CO is a product of incomplete combustion. Specifically, it is created by ventilation limited partial combustion (i.e. not enough oxygen to make CO2).

So, coals would actually make a lot more CO than a roaring fire would.

[–] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

Fascinating! Thank you.

[–] onslaught545@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago

Depends on how you build your shelter, really.

[–] Krudler@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Don't put rocks near fire, especially wet rocks, they can explode

edit: I love that there's some crying piss-ass following me and downvoting all my stuff. Whatever I said to hurt your feelings: GOOD!

[–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

River rocks can be great for cooking, fireplaces and under sleeping spots…you just have to crack them first like a nut. In a fire, away from everyone else, arranged around the fire ring they mostly won’t explode

[–] TheTurner@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I was being pretty stupid once and heated up a rock with a blow torch. The thing was glowing red and was super hot. I'm honestly surprised it didn't explode...

[–] naught101@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

River rocks will if you get them too hot too fast, because they have water inside, and it boils. Drier rocks are usually OK, they might crack though.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

The BIG sleep.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 3 points 22 hours ago

I left out the detail of "move most of the coals over to the other side of your area for the overnight fire."

Also, if the ground is wet, dig even deeper narrow drainage channels on both sides of that shallow trench. The fire will dry out the ground you're about to sleep on, and the channels allow for runoff. Luke from Outdoor Boys does exactly this in Alaska, even after digging down to the ground through feet of snow, that's how I know about it.

[–] oppy1984@lemdro.id 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

A year or two ago the YouTube channel primitive technologies did a video where he built under floor heating for his hut with an outdoor fire. It reminded me of how the Romans heated their floors.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 8 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I've got some bad news for you...

That video came out 9 years ago.

[–] oppy1984@lemdro.id 1 points 16 hours ago

I looked it up and you are infact wrong, it was 9 years ago. You don't get to hurt me, only I hurt me.....

Half point to you though, I probably did watch it 7 years ago, I got into the channel after reading an article about it on some website and watched all of the back catalog in less than a week.

[–] toast@retrolemmy.com 28 points 1 day ago

I immediately thought of Roman hypocausts, but apparently this sort of thing was done in Asia and North America thousands of years earlier. Who knew?

[–] aramova@infosec.pub 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Also nearly every South Korean household has it standard.

Went there a few years back and don't understand how I'm living with this fucking dusty ass air blower drying shit out every winter making parts of me crack that shouldn't crack every year.

[–] JennyLaFae@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 1 day ago (2 children)

American capitalism, every solution should cost the user money for forever and cause another problem for other products to fix.

[–] Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org 4 points 21 hours ago

As opposed to underfloor heating which is maintainance-free and doesn't consume fuel

[–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

Looking at my air purifier and water filter that both need replacements from different companies…yes yes this is all fine and I want to give away my monies for clean water

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 3 points 1 day ago
[–] dawcas@scribe.disroot.org 3 points 18 hours ago

In some places of Spain, in the country side, there are heating systems called "gloria" that are basically the same as ancient times.

https://inv.nadeko.net/watch?v=snfLEVDSbNw

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 1 points 18 hours ago

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ondol

The page that talks about them in Korea (neolithic) includes a diagram