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[–] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 255 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Wait, the Epstein list that definitely doesn't exist may have his name planted on it?

The goalposts have left the fucking stadium.

[–] ChaosCharlie@lemmy.ca 79 points 3 days ago (2 children)

The goal posts have long since achieved escape velocity. At the beginning of this stage of the Epstein scandal, the goal posts were in stable low earth orbit. They are now at the L1 Lagrange point between the earth and moon.

[–] wirebeads@lemmy.ca 44 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Those goal posts move faster than Trump at a child beauty pageants change room.

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[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 18 points 3 days ago

Oh, I remember the time when we still had goal posts to move around.

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[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 113 points 3 days ago (4 children)

The files are real, I've got them on my desk

My enemies are named in the files.

I'm not going to release the files for people to see the context.

Nobody cares anyway we won't talk about it.

Ok everyone cares about it but the list doesn't actually exist

Okay it exists but all instances that mention me are fake <-- you are here

[–] HuskerNation@lemmy.zip 28 points 3 days ago (1 children)

In the words of Mr. miyagi " lie become truth only if people want to believe it"

[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 24 points 3 days ago

I hate living in a post-truth society.

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[–] pivot_root@lemmy.world 89 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (6 children)

That didn't happen.
"The files don't exist."

And if it did, it wasn't that bad.
"It's just full of Democrats."

And if it was, that's not a big deal.
"Old news, move on already."

And if it is, that's not my fault.
"Somebody planted my name in it."

And if it was, I didn't mean it.
???

And if I did, you deserved it.
???

That last one is going to be a doozey.

[–] aceshigh@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago

Re last one … they wanted to be models and make money, and Epstein made it happen… so they deserved being abused?

[–] 0ops@piefed.zip 11 points 3 days ago

We already know how the last one is gonna go. "If they didn't want to get raped they shouldn't be dressing so suggestively"

[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

"I thought the kids were all in college" or "I thought they were dolls"

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[–] MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world 72 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I will take that as confirmation from Donald Trump that his name is on the list.

Pedophile.

[–] FenderStratocaster@lemmy.world 66 points 3 days ago (5 children)

It's very clear that he's on the list and that's not surprising. What's surprising is that out of all the people in these bureaus and government, not a single person is standing up and doing anything. It's unbelievable that there aren't and people with intrinsic good in them to fucking do something about this.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 41 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Last 10 years have really shown us how trash this country is, haven't they?

Americans aren't very smart. Americans are pretty weak.

Sad. But true.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago

Americans invented the propaganda systems which have now eaten their brains. It is currently being trained on the rest of the world.

(They also warned us about those same propaganda systems, but we didn't care about that.)

Heads up.

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[–] kmartburrito@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago

He has unfortunately systematically gotten rid of them through his two terms

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[–] Steve@startrek.website 51 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Because he fucked children.

[–] slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org 17 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I just fucked some child and then, believe it or not, i was suddenly on the list. I barely even knew that Jeffrey guy

[–] Steve@startrek.website 13 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Probably some democrat planted trump’s penis inside that child.

Sorry, I meant those children

[–] Mediocre_Bard@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago

Raped. The sitting President of the United States is a child rapist.

[–] Plum@lemmy.world 50 points 3 days ago (1 children)

He sure is saying a lot of things that aren't, "it is patently false that I fuck children."

[–] Xanthobilly@lemmy.world 22 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That’s because Trump rapes children.

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[–] MacStache@sopuli.xyz 46 points 3 days ago

The very same file that according to him checks notes doesn't exist?

[–] VerilyFemme@lemmy.blahaj.zone 42 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

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Yeah, planted by his buddy Jeff after some pleasant correspondance

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[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 36 points 3 days ago (1 children)

A ha, he knows his name is in there and is trying to cover his tracks

[–] FinalRemix@lemmy.world 19 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They don't exist.
Okay they exist, but I'm not in them.
√Okay I'm in them but it's a forgery.
So what if I'm really in them?
Anyone who isn't in them an enemy of the state.

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[–] TipRing@lemmy.world 33 points 3 days ago

Ah yes, his name was planted in the files by his political enemies to defame him and then they kept the files secret for years to make the frame-job extra believable. Very credible story, no notes.

[–] lemmy_outta_here@lemmy.world 32 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Donald Trump, probably: “Hey, who planted my dick in all these underage girls?”

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[–] Wolf@lemmy.today 26 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Anyone who believes Trump "Hasn't been interested" in whether his name is on the list or not...

Anyone who believes lifelong Republican and Trump Collaborator J. Comey can see the future...

Anyone who believes that the Biden administration went through the trouble of doctoring evidence to set up Trump just in case he was elected in the future and pressured to release the files...

Anyone who believes that he hasn't already decided to pardon Ghislaine Maxwell in exchange for her compiling a list of 100 of Trumps enemies...

Is a fucking idiot, even by MAGAt standards, and that's already as low of a bar as it's possible to have.

[–] EightBitBlood@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago (4 children)

MAGA still believes MILLIONS of votes for Biden were from migrants bused in from Mexico.

If you took all the busses in the entirety of the USA, and used them at once, you could, at most, be able to transport 800,000 people.

And that's if all the busses in the US were doing it at once. Something that would certainly be noticed.

MAGA are just dilusional. Unfortunately, nothing based in reality can change that.

[–] Wolf@lemmy.today 13 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

That's really, really stupid, but even that isn't as dumb as "There is no list, and if there is a list I'm not on it, and if I am on it it's Biden's fault, and if there's proof I'm a pedo it's a hoax, and I haven't even thought of pardoning Maxwell, but I totally could, and If I do it's not because she produced a bogus list that I'm not on but all my enemies are."

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[–] WraithGear@lemmy.world 23 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

yea, by Epstien.

[–] swordgeek@lemmy.ca 23 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Any article that begins with "Trump says" isn't worth reading.

[–] fartographer@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Unfortunately, it is. Gotta find out who Trump is trying to fuck or kill so that we can make big enough of a stink to protect them.

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[–] neuromorph@lemmy.world 22 points 3 days ago (1 children)

"planted" by "fact checkers"

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[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 21 points 3 days ago

MAGA, I gotta tell you, we all think you're dumb enough to believe this.

[–] tired_n_bored@lemmy.world 21 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It always happens to the best people. I hate when the same happens to me

[–] criss_cross@lemmy.world 22 points 3 days ago

Don’t you just hate when you’re maliciously added to a giant scandal that you had nothing to do with? It’s always the ones that were perpetrated by a man that you knew for 15 years that described you as his only friend and that introduced you to your current wife.

Happens to me all the time too.

[–] manxu@piefed.social 15 points 3 days ago

I am taking this as the official admission by Donald Trump that his name is in fact in the Epstein files, planted or not.

[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 15 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Planted?

Damn yo, how'd that happen?

[–] tburkhol@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They will say that Biden had those files for 4 years. Anything could have happened.

[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago

That isn't an irrelevant point. Not because Trump was falsely added to the Epstein files but because it's yet another angle the Biden DOJ could have taken to do something consequential about Trump. Instead they repeatedly stalled and chose to pursue only the most trivial of accusations with any real sense of urgency, apparently hoping that ignoring the problem would make it go away, or at least buy them some political goodwill. Now we're all stuck dealing with the fallout of treating a traitor with kid gloves.

[–] BigMacHole@sopuli.xyz 14 points 3 days ago

MY "name" was Planted in Great American Jeffrey Epstein's Book that is a HOAX by OBAMALAMAREA! Thank "you" for your AttenTIon to this Matter!

[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago

Not planted. You disgusting Pedo POS.

[–] ReallyActuallyFrankenstein@lemmynsfw.com 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

MAGA: What's this? A reason I can stop caring about my god-emperor being probably almost certainly definitely a pedophile? Yes please!

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[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 3 days ago

"We were 'pals' for fifteen years and no one thought to mention it until the deep state decided to retroactively add my name. Just like how the FBI never catalogues the associates of any other person under criminal investigation."

[–] sirico@feddit.uk 12 points 3 days ago

It's also now a hoax

[–] Goretantath@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago (2 children)

All he does is lie, why should we believe him?

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[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 10 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Actual genius plan to weasel out of this...

Conspiracy theorists in your party obsess over pedophile related conspiracies (true and imaginary) so you use another conspiracy to get them back on your side...

They'll 100% eat this up for sure. All he needs to do is get Pam Rubber Stamp Bondi to provide some "evidence" that has a bunch of Democrats on it and this will all be over. Any connection to him can be dismissed as his favorite "witch hunt" and "fake documents."

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[–] sad_detective_man@leminal.space 10 points 3 days ago (2 children)

have you ever just not asked someone because you already knew they were going to lie anyway?

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