Why is France consistently the only country with a spine in here?
this post was submitted on 28 Jul 2025
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Always has been, thanks to Gaullist "strategic autonomy". The cocky old man has been proven so incredibly right these last few years.
They have nukes.
So does Britain but I guess they aren’t in the EU
That, and France also has an economy.
GOT DAMN! Unnecessary Roughness, 15-yard penalty.
13.716 meter*
Can't catch a break from y'all Europeans!
Britain is utterly spineless and it's citizens more so. I think they used it all up in the Blitz.
Doesn't Britain actually have the US's nukes?
They are building their nukes but they are mounting them in top of US missiles.
So without the US they can't use their nukes.
But its not like the US would be able to just take back the missiles that are already in service
I find it quite depressing, considering that our current PM is exactly what I would call spineless.
Macron trying to legitimise his dictatorship (he gave the power to form a government to a party whose leaders he's friends with that achieved only 5% of the vote) and garner sorely needed votes for the next election.
I actually think they're trying to leverage it to gain back what was originally in place instead of caving in like everyone else.
Like right now Macron is talking big about announcing recognition of Palestine in September. He's giving the US 2 months to bring a better deal or risk losing unilateral NATO support over American foreign policy in Israel.
I mean its good that they're actually deciding these things for themselves, but if Trump hadn't blown up the global market with delusional tariff wars and hanging "allies" to dry, France probably wouldn't have blinked an eye for anything the US demanded so long as they get paid.
The rest of Europe doesn't want to take on the burden of an independent foreign/defense policy.
Western European countries get to enjoy their peace dividend while not needing to answer to their public about foreign policy. Eastern Europe is scared that Russian aggression is going to include their countries.
France is probably the only EU nation that can self deploy an expeditionary force or project power beyond its borders. France is also the only EU nation with a nuclear deterrent.
So many people, businesses, and countries have given Trump BJs to stay in his favour and all it does it show him he can come back and bully them again for more.
But I’m sure it’ll work out this time.
I did most of my growing up in the 1970s, where the universal parental advice to every single child who was bullied was, "The only way to stop a bully is to stand up to him."
Like so many other things Gen-X was taught in our childhood, I now believe it was just a hollow lie. Maybe my parents repeated it without realizing it was one, like so many others.
That is the only way to deal with them. Problem is all the "both sides" bullshit in schools now where both the bully and the kid trying to stop his lunch getting stolen get punished equally. It's changed how people think you're supposed to deal with an aggressor.
Thanks, good point, I think I just had a subconscious need to take a sideswipe at the reality that, had the US I was taught about in school not been a fabrication, we would not today be in the circumstances we are in.
I'm carrying a certain baseline level of rage pretty continuously since Jan 20, 2025, and it sometimes leaks out at inappropriate times.
Edit: No, since the morning of November 6th when I awoke to find myself having this reaction:
He'll be tossing them out windows like Putin eventually
I thought we learned about 80 years ago that appeasement does not work
We also learned that Nazism doesn't go well, but apparently we can only maintain these lessons for one or two generations.
We had a good run.
Some people did
Some other people learned absolutely nothing
It's not been ratified yet. Time to put pressure on our MPs.
I suppose it could be a bit like a union deal no? The negotiators have a tentative agreement and then would the members ratify it? (Would members in this case European nations or representatives in parliament or something else? I'm unsure.)
When would it be ratified? I can't seem to find any concrete information
How?
Write, email, telephone- whatever works best for you.
How do I identify them correctly? Is there a site? I've not had much luck in this
