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[–] 332@lemmy.world 138 points 5 days ago (7 children)

Why is France consistently the only country with a spine in here?

[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 40 points 5 days ago

Always has been, thanks to Gaullist "strategic autonomy". The cocky old man has been proven so incredibly right these last few years.

[–] emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works 31 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] Rolder@reddthat.com 18 points 5 days ago (3 children)

So does Britain but I guess they aren’t in the EU

[–] emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works 30 points 5 days ago (1 children)

That, and France also has an economy.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 15 points 4 days ago (1 children)

GOT DAMN! Unnecessary Roughness, 15-yard penalty.

[–] defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

Can't catch a break from y'all Europeans!

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago

Britain is utterly spineless and it's citizens more so. I think they used it all up in the Blitz.

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Doesn't Britain actually have the US's nukes?

[–] BastingChemina@slrpnk.net 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

They are building their nukes but they are mounting them in top of US missiles.

So without the US they can't use their nukes.

[–] Rolder@reddthat.com 2 points 4 days ago

But its not like the US would be able to just take back the missiles that are already in service

[–] Prancingpotato@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago

I find it quite depressing, considering that our current PM is exactly what I would call spineless.

[–] mlg@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

I actually think they're trying to leverage it to gain back what was originally in place instead of caving in like everyone else.

Like right now Macron is talking big about announcing recognition of Palestine in September. He's giving the US 2 months to bring a better deal or risk losing unilateral NATO support over American foreign policy in Israel.

I mean its good that they're actually deciding these things for themselves, but if Trump hadn't blown up the global market with delusional tariff wars and hanging "allies" to dry, France probably wouldn't have blinked an eye for anything the US demanded so long as they get paid.

[–] RedPandaRaider@feddit.org 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Macron trying to legitimise his dictatorship (he gave the power to form a government to a party whose leaders he's friends with that achieved only 5% of the vote) and garner sorely needed votes for the next election.

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 1 points 4 days ago

The rest of Europe doesn't want to take on the burden of an independent foreign/defense policy.

Western European countries get to enjoy their peace dividend while not needing to answer to their public about foreign policy. Eastern Europe is scared that Russian aggression is going to include their countries.

France is probably the only EU nation that can self deploy an expeditionary force or project power beyond its borders. France is also the only EU nation with a nuclear deterrent.