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For all the Trump administration’s talk of saving money and increasing “government efficiency,” the president demanded that huge amounts be appropriated in the Republicans’ recent budget bill to fund his mass-deportation program.

In all, $170 billion was set aside to be spent over the next four years for border and immigration enforcement. This total includes $45 billion to create a sprawling detention system (nearly five times the annual budget for the Bureau of Prisons), $30 billion for ICE operations, $46.6 billion for more border wall construction, and, as if that weren’t enough, a new $10 billion border patrol slush fund.

This level of funding is unprecedented. ICE is now the highest-funded law enforcement agency in the country. And that fact raises a question: What exactly are they going to do with all that money?

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[–] TrojanRoomCoffeePot@lemmy.world 61 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Disaster in the making? It's already a fucking disaster. ICE agents have been granted additional slack above and beyond that already extended to normal cops, who frequently abuse it. This is going to be a fucking American Kristallnacht for Latinos, with more groups set to follow in the wake of these broad constitutional and legal abuses.

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 17 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

it's true that our current situation is a disaster. it does not diminish the fact that an even bigger disaster is being constructed while we process and attempt to repair this disaster. the old ice agents are bad, evil, and cruel, but they were also all recruited under a different framing of what ICE is supposed to be. the new ones will have absolutely no compunctions, no reservations, and no hesitations.

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[–] bobs_monkey@lemmy.zip 11 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (2 children)

Yup, combined with the EO from Friday allowing for involuntary civil commitment, more and more people outside latinos are going to start disappearing. I'm just waiting for them to consider having liberal views a mental disorder.

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 9 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

They are going to go after trans people.

Is anyone going to do anything when we start being committed?

[–] bobs_monkey@lemmy.zip 7 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Short of hijacking a bulldozer and driving it through the exterior walls of these detention centers at risk of getting myself killed, I legit don't know what to do with anything at this point.

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[–] TrojanRoomCoffeePot@lemmy.world 5 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Please, don't wait, tell everyone you know IRL who's in that position to make 'arrangements for travel out of country'.

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

My options are driving either straight south or north and trying to sneak across the border. We aren’t recognized as qualifying for refugee status, I’ve been applying for jobs but I don’t know if I’ll be able to get anything, I don’t know how I would afford to move.

[–] TrojanRoomCoffeePot@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Can you elaborate on this more, please? I'm not familiar with EO's declaration regarding involuntary commitment, but if it means what I think it does, it's a sea change. Where did you first hear/read about it, and what was the verbiage exactly?

[–] ajoebyanyothername@lemmy.world 5 points 8 hours ago

I just put the words 'executive order involuntary commitment' into my search engine of choice and found multiple news articles covering this. I have every faith that you can do the same.

[–] splount@lemmy.world 52 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

We are going to see some real Abu Graib type shit in no time at all with the culture of abuse and rushed training. But will any of the immovable 40% who voted for this start to question our embrace of cruelty on a national level? Meh...Look at the baubles!

[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 4 points 7 hours ago

Yeah, the govt spun the story of Abu Ghraib as being a few bad apples that didn't represent American values. And of course it's bullshit, because it's so incredibly predictable what outcomes you will get from doing things like this. Torture and abuse are American values, because that is what America consistently and repeatedly engages in.

[–] PunkRockSportsFan@fanaticus.social 26 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

This is how they will do their kristelnacht (day of the rope)

They are gathering data on all of us

That is what the army is for

[–] Proprietary_Blend@lemmy.world 55 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Night of Broken Glass, dude

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 21 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

they're saying america's version will be broad daylight lynchings. he's translating not the german to english, but the nazi to maga

[–] Proprietary_Blend@lemmy.world 5 points 14 hours ago (2 children)
[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 7 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

It’s from The Turner Diaries. If you follow Stormfront/4chan spaces, they specifically want the day of the rope. In the novel, it’s described how they hang “race traitors.”

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[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 5 points 12 hours ago

nah no worries. it was a little subtle. i'm glad to have gotten to illuminate what i thought was a solid bit of... humor's the wrong word…

solid bit of something

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 14 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

It's Kristallnacht, Christel has nothing to do with any of this.

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[–] myrrh@ttrpg.network 22 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

...they are paying bounties on extra-judicial arrests...

bounties.

for arrest without trial.

...barring decisive impeachment and conviction in eighteen months, there is no way this doesn't end in blood and fire...

[–] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 7 points 10 hours ago

But but the Epstein files bro just wait for you'll see everyone will confirm for sure again that he's a rapist and we'll defeat facism bro don't forget the Epstein files trust me bro

[–] womjunru@lemmy.cafe 21 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Fine them. Find their families. Publish their info.

[–] AlecSadler@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

It's too bad a doxxing website for ICE would get shut down easily or the operators disappeared...

...otherwise I'd totally create it.

[–] womjunru@lemmy.cafe 15 points 13 hours ago (1 children)
[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 hours ago

Could be backed up as an .onion site relatively easily by people who know what they're doing.

[–] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 18 points 3 hours ago (4 children)

This total includes $45 billion to create a sprawling detention system (nearly five times the annual budget for the Bureau of Prisons)

Now why would they need such a big budget for concentration camps if they're deporting the illegal immigrants? Seems like a big waste to build all those facilities and have them sit empty after the job is done.

Or is it more likely they're going to start rounding up other people too? Trump just announced they're going to go after homeless and mentally ill people. And we know they consider trans people to be a danger to themselves and gay/bi as deviants. We've also seen a rise on attacks against political opponents. Trump even wants to charge Obama with treason.

This is exactly the Nazi playbook from the 30s. And the American public is letting him do it.

[–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 38 minutes ago

For comparison, the Trump Admin just approved a 5000 bed tent camp at Fort Bliss in El Paso, TX. The contract was awarded to Acquisition Logistics for $1.26B.

That's $252k per bed. There's easily enough money there to build single family homes for every one of them, and even that would be wasteful. (And yes, even in high cost of living areas, the sheer scale involved would almost certainly bring costs below that number).

When we say "the cruelty is the point", this is why. There's a lack of other explanations for their actions.

[–] KMAMURI@lemmy.world 4 points 19 minutes ago (1 children)

To not be American and watch this all unfold truly shows us what Americans are all about. Around the globe we've listened for a long time about how dominant they are in everything but when it comes to standing up for themselves and their fellow man, they sit down.

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[–] Notyou@sopuli.xyz 3 points 30 minutes ago

Funny fact about a cage, they're never built for just one group, so when the cage is done with them and you're still poor. It come for you.

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[–] reallykindasorta@slrpnk.net 18 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

We know what they want to do with the money because we saw WWI and WWII; create an army directly responsive to the president to facilitate ethnic cleansing and usher in eugenics.

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[–] Cocopanda@lemmy.world 14 points 8 hours ago

People should start following bros back to their operating centers then following them home. Create a catalog publicly showing their homes to the public. See how that goes for them SS officers.

When I worked for DoD. This was CBP and Other three letter groups biggest fears. Having their private lives invaded.

[–] UristMcHolland@lemmy.world 9 points 3 hours ago

It's almost like Trump wants to make his own personal army that takes orders from him alone.

[–] KMAMURI@lemmy.world 8 points 4 hours ago

Someone else posted this in a comment thread. Just want to make it more visible....

https://icelist.is/

[–] chonkyninja@lemmy.world 7 points 19 hours ago

.308 SBR’s to the rescue.

[–] NikolaTeslasPigeon@lemmy.world 7 points 9 hours ago

I wonder what measures they'll be taking to filter out a would-be saboteur? Would be really hard if the target is to hire 10k people.

[–] figjam@midwest.social 7 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

One of these days these guys are going to be in a shootout and its all going to go south guickly.

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[–] griff@lemmings.world 6 points 19 hours ago

The GOP-dominated US federal government continues its malevolent efforts to Make America Grotesque AF

[–] arin@lemmy.world 6 points 17 hours ago

No wonder they went so hard against antifascist early on...

[–] Velypso@sh.itjust.works 6 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (5 children)

I wish those of us who stood on "moral righteousness" when voting (in this case not voting) had enough brain power to think about the genocide they helped to trigger back home.

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 3 points 20 hours ago

bUt AmErIcAnS nEeD tO gEt UnCoMfOrTaBlE tO hElP gAzAnS.

how is this helping Gazans? things don't seem any better to me in the levant

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[–] oyzmo@lemmy.world 5 points 7 hours ago

...give it some time, and it'll be death squad. Just plain killing people, cheaper than sending them away.

The ICE agent's comin', the sun's zoomin' in
Meltdown expected, the wheat is growin' thin
Engines stop runnin', but I have no fear
'Cause 'Murica's drownin' and I ... I live by the river

Ok, I have some fear.

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