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[–] SilverShark@lemmy.world 296 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's yet another step in seeing the Internet becoming owned by big corporations. Only big corporations can implement these things.

Art, creativity, people doing internet things as a hobby, that is dying more and more everyday.

[–] aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 132 points 1 day ago (5 children)

I miss the 90s internet :(

[–] pezhore@infosec.pub 44 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There was a site I found in highschool around 1998 - the paradigm of pessimism.

Full of dark humor and anti-jokes, in glorious web 1.0 - that site had a huge impact on my humor. I've never been able to find it again. Just a random site someone hosted somewhere on the Internet - no scams, no paywalls, just a bunch of weird humor.

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Nowadays, if there's something you like online, remember to plug it into archive.org so it gets added to the wayback machine. You'll still need to remember the URL to access it, but at least it will be archived somewhere

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[–] SilverShark@lemmy.world 39 points 1 day ago

Me too, so much!

A big reason why I've come to like Lemmy communities so much is really because they give me some old internet feeling. It's not super crowded, it's an app that isn't design for brain rot, it allows interesting online discussion etc.

I think projects like this can continue to exist, even in a bleak corporate owned internet.

[–] miguel@fedia.io 17 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I tried gemini protocol for a bit to see if it did a decent job addressing this, but it doesn't. We do legit need a 'smallweb' non-commercial sort of thing, but I suspect retreating to a BBS model is probably what is required.

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[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 234 points 1 day ago (8 children)

This is the second time in my life that Labour have gained power after a long Conservative tenure, only to dive straight into enacting policies that were more right-wing than their predecessors.

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 69 points 1 day ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (13 children)

It's less of a left - right thing (that's mainly economics). It paternalism Vs liberty thing. Labour have always had a very strong "we must protect the populace" theme to their policies. Conservatives have it too, but they want to do it in a different way.

Sadly it's a really difficult thing to stand against. Who wants to be labelled the person enabling paedophiles, when all you want is the right to private communication.

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[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 29 points 1 day ago

The OSA was brought in by the tories. Labour agree with it as well. Both of them are authoritarian bastards.

[–] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 27 points 19 hours ago

if i had a nickel for everytime a labour government came into power after a prolonged tory government and immediately started governing further right id have two nickels which isn't a lot but it's weird it happened twice in a row

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[–] FairycorePhoebe@lemmy.blahaj.zone 138 points 19 hours ago (5 children)

I don't understand how this is a controversial opinion, but maybe parents should actually parent their children instead of expecting the Internet or the government to decide what their kids should see for them? Maybe talk to your kid about safe and ethical sex, the dangers of porn addiction, and not to take anything away from pornographic content instead? Maybe we shouldn't be giving children smartphones and tablets with unfettered internet access in the first place instead of spending time with them? Wild concepts I know.

[–] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 105 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

because these laws aren't about protecting children they're about elimination of access to things the government doesn't like... like queer spaces

[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 49 points 19 hours ago (4 children)

This, right here. It's like Nixon's "war on drugs" that went on, and on, and on... The goal was not drugs, per-se, but to use drugs as a pretense to police people of color.

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[–] obinice@lemmy.world 15 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

And giving them sweeping ability to track everybody via their identity papers, to see what websites and services they're using, what all their online identities are, etc.

They claim the info isn't being saved or passed on to the government to form a big surveillance database to one day use against people - sure, it's legal to, say, be gay or a socialist or of a particular religion today, but societies and regimes change, and the info they collect on you today may become ammunition against you in 10, 20, 40 years time.

But I don't for a moment believe their obvious lies.

This is nothing but authoritarian police state monitoring and control. It's extremely obvious. Yet, who are we to vote for in the next election? Not Labour, thanks to this (and a few other big reasons perhaps), not the Tories because, well, you've seen what they're like.

It's not impossible for a third party to be elected of course, not as impossible as places like the USA that have a very worryingly solidified two party system, it's just very unlikely.

Knowing the British people and their seeming apathy and poor judgement at scale these days I wouldn't be surprised if they elect the racist bigots at Reform - who ironically would be even more authoritarian and evil than what we have now.

As usual, there's no hope for the future and no possibility of good outcomes.

Humanity is doomed to repeat it's failures for all of history again and again, and we're just along for the miserable ride.

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[–] jacksilver@lemmy.world 24 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

I've been saying this a couple places recently, but why not pass legislation requiring every site to provide a content rating. Then parents can choose if they want to restrict content by ratings or not. Yeah, you could have malicious actors, but it makes it easier and simpler for everyone to work than having ID laws.

[–] xthexder@l.sw0.com 23 points 17 hours ago

But that would actually solve the problem and not enable massive government overreach. We can't have that.

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[–] rizzothesmall@sh.itjust.works 114 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, it's a lot of admin for most small providers to be bothered with. Less of a hit to just block the whole UK.

Which is why big tech is actively lobbying for these laws because they know that they will be the only ones who can comply and therefore exist.

[–] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 85 points 1 day ago

Perfect response. This gets the message across, "governments of the world, the Internet doesn't need you, you need the Internet".

[–] TWeaK@lemmy.today 67 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

Fuck off with your device based verification system. That's just the same service, but as a more invasive app installed on your phone.

Instead of scanning a face or ID and uploading it to a service, we're expected to run unverified closed source code on the device we carry everywhere in our pockets?!

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Fuck off with your device based verification system. That's just the same service, but as a more invasive app installed on your phone.

not necessarily. you give a phone to your children. you partly lock it down by setting it up as a child account, with its age. you make sure to install a web browser that supports limiting access to age appropriate content according to the age set in the system, maybe taking a parent allowed whitelist. the website is legally obliged to set an appropriate age limit value in a standard HTTP header.

that way, the website does not know your age. the decision is on the web browser.
the web browser checks the configuration in the system, that only the parent can change. it does not send it anywhere, only does a yes/no decision. if the site is not ok, it'll show a thing like when the connection is not secure or it was put on the safebrowsing list, except that you can't skip it, only option is to request parent permission.
and finally the age is set in the operating system, without verifying its truthiness, but once again requesting lock screen authentication.
oh and app installs need parent approval for kid accounts, like it should almost always be.

this way it's as private as it can get. the only way a website can find out information about you from this, is to log if your browser loaded the html but not any other resources, because that means you were caught in the age filter. but that's it.

there's multiple pieces in this that is not yet implemented, but they should be possible with not too much work.
this is all possible with open source code, if you make sure the kid can't install anything without parent approval. stores like fdroid could have some badge or something if a browser supports this kind of limitation.

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[–] Confining@lemmy.dbzer0.com 59 points 15 hours ago

Part of me wants every website to do this. The UK just gets blocked from majority of the internet then people in the UK can get angry and rebel.

[–] yeahiknow3@lemmings.world 59 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

So of all the fucking things to restrict, why this? Facebook is a hundred times more dangerous than any porn. Ban that shit instead.

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[–] Essence_of_Meh@lemmy.world 58 points 1 day ago (3 children)

There's a UK Parliament petition to repeal the Online Safety act. There's no guarantee it'll do anything but might be worth a try for anyone in the UK.

[–] tarknassus@lemmy.world 24 points 23 hours ago

Don't forget to write to your MP - being polite but angry helps. Explain the issues, shortcomings and why you feel this should be repealed and a better user-friendly and privacy respecting alternative needs to be found BEFORE implementing stupid asinine knee-jerk legislation like this.

My poor MP is getting it in the jugular because they boasted about working in data security and I'm exploiting the hell out of that statement so they can't easily weasel their way out of it.

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[–] Lembot_0004@discuss.online 50 points 1 day ago
[–] fox2263@lemmy.world 46 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Imagine if people could just choose what country they’re browsing from

[–] TingoTenga@lemmy.world 73 points 1 day ago

Not a long term solution.

[–] Winter_Oven@piefed.social 33 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Imagine if people could choose what country they're ~~browsing~~ from.

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[–] arararagi@ani.social 43 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

This is sadly the way to handle it, users of these places need to learn how to vpn instead of giving their private information for age verification online.

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 16 points 19 hours ago

VPNs aren’t going to be a practical solution going forward. You are creating dependancies that governments can target, spying on traffic and enforcing censorship for these relays is something any country can and likely will implement at some point. The clearnet is dying because the evangelicals are killing it.

[–] MITM0@lemmy.world 43 points 1 day ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (11 children)

At this point Dark-web tech needs an upgrade, we might just need a "2nd internet"

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[–] Tudsamfa@lemmy.world 35 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Yeah, we're all mad, fuck the suits and all that.

But why does the distinction between "real-world adult material" and "creative, non-realistic", "artistic, animated works" that "do no harm" matter? Last time I checked, realistic adult material can be just as artistic, and the harm done by negligently letting children watch it seems comparable.

Are they in favour of age verification for "uncreative, realistic" pornography, or is the real distinction just between real-life and online?

[–] beveradb@sh.itjust.works 34 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I interpreted it as "can't possibly be doing harm to the people in the video" - eg as much of mainstream porn can do - since there are none if everything is animated fiction

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[–] arararagi@ani.social 21 points 23 hours ago

It's because some arguments against porn says the actors involved have it bad. Something that can't happen in a drawing.

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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 34 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

That's what everyone should be doing.

[–] dogs0n@sh.itjust.works 19 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

Have to agree with you. If every site just blocked the country with a stupid law like this, then the regular (regarded) folk that are gonna send over their ID the first chance they get will maybe log off their wank station and idk join the cause.

Saying that, at least ppl will be forced to use a vpn instead of sending their id through the internet if they dont comply and just block.

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[–] slaacaa@lemmy.world 33 points 1 day ago
[–] burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world 29 points 21 hours ago

hand wringing over objectionable video games is why queer artists are now having their platforms removed. if you dont want to see certain kinds of fictional porn, then either avoid the website it is hosted on, or make an account and edit your blacklist. also, if youre worried about your children having access to gay yiff, then restrict their access

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 28 points 1 day ago (3 children)

There's a lot of rule34 comic sites out there, I just found out. Which one is this? Just for research and background.

[–] socsa@piefed.social 19 points 21 hours ago (10 children)

I sort of don't understand why these places which are hosted somewhere else would even bother?

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[–] abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

Oh no, what ever will I, resident of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, do.

Boots up Tor.

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