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[–] HalfSalesman@lemmy.world 200 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Yeah that's fucked. If you are going to let people say "No Christians" or "No Muslims" then "No Zionists" ought to be allowed.

[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 209 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Zionism isn't even an actual religious belief. It is a political one. A desire for a specific outcome and policies to support it

[–] HalfSalesman@lemmy.world 44 points 2 days ago (1 children)

My autistic ass is going to be nitpicky as well. Zionism deals directly with people who identify with a religion and where they ought to live. I mean it also vaguely alludes to aspects of jewish ethnicity's since zionism likely also is concerned with athiest but ethnically jewish people unless I am mistaken. There is a lot wrapped up in it.

Also religions have specific outcomes they desire as well.

Regardless, my point people should be allowed to be anti-zionist on Grindr if they can be anti-other-vaguely-equivalent-things.

[–] KryptonNerd@slrpnk.net 10 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Just to confirm for you (from an atheist jew) yes zionism is also concerned with atheist jews. Also, yeah people should absolutely be allowed to say no zionists, I certainly wouldn't want to date someone who doesn't care about Palestinians.

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[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 day ago

So it should be even less protected

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[–] Darth_Lemmy@lemmy.zip 29 points 2 days ago (1 children)

that's anisemitism please ban and arrest

[–] HalfSalesman@lemmy.world 56 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I mean "No Jews" is allowed so its not even that they're worried about antisemitism.

[–] HexadecimalSky@lemmy.world 29 points 2 days ago (5 children)

No, no, antisemitism isn't about hating jews its about hating zionist. The military industrial complex tells me so. /sarcasm/

Though thats how alot of people treat it...

[–] Darth_Lemmy@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] Pilferjinx@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Not all Zionists are Jews. Humanity really needs to stop our imperialistic ways. Every piece of land is accounted for and to get more you have to bury the people who reside on it.

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[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 85 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Corporations embrace fascism as shallowly as they did DEIA and queer acceptance, but all it takes is a couple of inches of depth to drown if you fall down and become vulnerable.... which is something the businessmen and oligarchs, distracted by the incredible gains in wealth they are accruing from the firesale of the foundations of society torn down by fascists, only perceive as a slight annoyance, an ankles deep rising of water, oh no my fancy leather dress shoes are ruined!

Anti-zionism is not anti-semitism for a very simple reason, being against the apartheid state of Israel and its genocide of Palestinians has nothing to do with being against Jews or Judaism. They are seperate concepts period, end of story.

Jews or Israelis make a strange argument when they call someone from the US like me anti-semitic for being against Israel's actions. This is a circus people who grew up in the post 9/11 US know intimately, Israel is the modern post cold war colonialism of the US echoed into a different context.

Just because I do not intimately understand the full vibrant depth of history that forms the context that the countless weapon systems, bombs and associated training FROM MY COUNTRY are used to erase doesn't mean I do not understand the process of erasure and have an indisputable stake in maintaining my moral integrity given the moral weight falls directly on my country for providing the machinery for erasure.

Scholars writing about this time will draw a direct throughline from US colonialism and genocide to the genocide of Palestinians, which isn't to say Israel does not also uniquely bear a terrible weight here that will last far longer than any of our lives.

I am against anti-semitism, I despise it. So is every anti-Zionist worth their salt and if I know one thing about the activists who show up to champion these causes it is that they will not tolerate people who violate basic human decency no matter if they are on their team or not... that is PRECISELY why they showed up to the protest in the first place. Focus on them as your enemy at your peril for the rightwing is turning very clearly on judaism as a scapegoat even as we speak....

“It seems pretty explicitly pro-colonization and protecting of the ideology that genocide and ethnic cleansing are okay for certain groups to perform as long as it upholds your own personal or capitalistic interests,” Green, a Grindr user I spoke to who also saw this error message, told me. “It’s gross. And to put energy towards protecting a blatantly bigoted ideology and not put the same energy towards protecting minority groups is pathetic. So fuck Grindr and its inability to intersect queer oppression with the oppression of other groups.”

Don't mistake these words for arguing this is too complicated to understand, that we must all learn even more divisions and categories... no this is the opposite. Our voices call for a simplicity of kindness, which recognizes the foundational humanity of all before any further judgement, a virtue honored by all the worlds major religions for obvious reasons.

[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 60 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Alternative phrases to use:

  • No reactionaries
  • No genocide supporters
  • No apartheid supprters
  • No IOZ/GDF supporters
  • Class conscious workers only
[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Exactly. Censorship, ultimately, doesn't work.

Remember, "the net interprets censorship as damage and routes around it." While we're talking about just one website, the above quote really speaks to online culture and, perhaps, humanity in general.

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[–] FelixCress@lemmy.world 48 points 2 days ago (4 children)
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[–] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 35 points 1 day ago (12 children)

This is such a weird stance for American companies and politicians. It truly blows my mind. You can say whatever you want about Americans or anything here. You can even say the president is a pedophile and it's fine (even if it wasn't true) but the second you say something bad about Israel because they suck everyone starts flipping their shit.

It's like our whole country is secretly run by Israel or something.

[–] multifariace@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

How is nobody calling out the fact that millions of Americans think that creating the State of Israel is supposed to fulfill their sadistic, hateful, apocolyptic prophecy fantasy of eternal punishment for people that dare to test their fickle faith. This is a large part of why this world sucks right now. Other than this simple quagmire, world control is about the almighty profit, but this is where these Americans will act counter to profit.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Its like the ruling class of our country is being blackmailed by Israel.

FTFY

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[–] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 27 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] simplejack@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Maybe throw “no religious nationalists” in for good measure. State religions don’t have the best track record in the history books.

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[–] unconsequential@slrpnk.net 27 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Clearly, other ideologies are also blocked then correct? Like, you can’t say, “no Christian nationalists” or “no white nationalists” or “no fascists” or “no Neo-Nazis” or “no MAGA”. Right? Right?? You have to accept and expose yourself to all dangerous ideologies equally.

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[–] knatschus@discuss.tchncs.de 22 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Let's take these serious for a moment and pretend that anti zionist = nazi

and zionist = jew

Does grindr really want that Jews meet up with nazis unexpectedly in a private place?

[–] zigmus64@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (6 children)

Nazis on Grindr? You must be kidding. No self respecting nazi would ever choose to be gay…

/s just in case that needed to be stated…

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[–] frenchfryenjoyer@lemmings.world 21 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Did Grindr get paid by the ADL or something? Either way it could be bypassed by just saying "no genocide apologists" lol

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[–] Lumisal@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Ah, time for new lingo to pop up.

I propose we go with "no zucchinis"

It's both innuendo, and can convey the word for Zionist

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[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 19 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

I feel like they actually could make their own app with blackjack and hookers.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

A dating app where you sit down and chat while playing black Jack and making bets before deciding if you're going to meet up, somehow that actually sounds more pleasant than what people have told me in their experiences on current sites.

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[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

In fact, forget the app

[–] Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago

This timid cowardice emboldens these creatures to commit genocide knowing that the West is too scared to confront them for fear of being labelled anti Semitic

[–] houstoneulers@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (2 children)

That's weird. Does that mean they can't say "no rice or spice" anymore too?

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[–] jellygoose@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)
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[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Ok, but it doesn't say anything about "nay to ye zionists".

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[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 12 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I better go check for myself...

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[–] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

"no zyonists"

"no zi onists"

"no z10n15t5"

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[–] blarghly@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (4 children)

You guys are all conspiracy theorists.

What actually happened: someone who knew someone at Grindr said "man, anti-zionism is really gaining ground on Grindr, huh?" The Grindr employee said "Huh?" "Oh yeah, its like on every other profile." "Huh...."

Then a few employees chat about it, until someone mentions it to their ad exec, who says "HWAT???" The ad exec knows that the Israeli government is committing war crimes - but they also know that as soon as the right wing media picks up on this, Grindr will become the "the secret deviant app for jew-hating gay nazis", and they DO NOT want to spend their weekend handling that shit storm.

Hence the rule.

You can still say "Pro Palestine" in your bio.

[–] forrgott@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 2 days ago (5 children)

I'm really confused. Do you think your theory is better?

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[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 days ago (7 children)

People still use Grindr?

I’m tempted to go back and club penguin that shit.

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[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 day ago (7 children)
[–] OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world 48 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It’s an app that republican politicians use to get dates while on the road campaigning or at conventions.

[–] deadinside91@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Cmon, no need to associate a popular gay dating app with republicans like it's a bad thing. Enough to criticize the party for without bringing sexuality into it.

[–] JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz 22 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

It's referencing the spikes the app sees whenever there's a republican event around.

"On the night of July 17—the Sunday that check-in for the [Republican National] convention began—there was a 120 percent increase in users online in the area, more than all previous evenings in July. As of last Wednesday, a representative from Grindr tells Broadly, “more than a thousand guys have used the app near the Quicken Loans Arena.” The total attendance of the RNC is estimated to have been roughly 20,000 people, so this data suggests about five percent of attendees used Grindr during the convention."
https://www.vice.com/en/article/cleveland-was-bombarded-with-white-dudes-on-grindr-during-the-rnc/

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[–] OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Honestly, if these republican leaders were honest and open about their homosexuality, I’d respect that. But they push strong anti-gay policies, gussied up as “family values,” and then when they’re out in the road away from their families they hit up Grindr. That I can’t respect. Gotta call out that hypocrisy.

I am sorry if that bothers you.

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[–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Gay hook-up/dating app that pre-dates Tinder. In fact, it inspired Tinder.

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