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[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 days ago (5 children)

The important thing is to be more pissed at the Democrats for not being good enough than you you are at the Republicans for being evil. There is nothing worse than a western liberal, not even the pro-trans-murder party

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NPR: Trump still would have won if everyone had turned out to vote. This could only have happened if either a. a(n electoral) plurality in this country prefers evil, or b. the Democrats failed to either have or articulate a platform sufficiently different for voters to see the difference. If the former, no amount of voting one's conscience would have an effect either way; if the latter, maybe folks who want change should either abandon or replace the Democratic party.

[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 8 points 4 days ago

As a resident of a state where Democrats are going to win, regardless of what I do, a state whose tiny insignificant number of electoral votes don't matter anyway, fuck you.

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago

Well if it is a matter of life and death vote democrats yes but then just dont sit on your butt the next for years (same goes for the maker of this meme), support alternative movements, spread the word, volunteer if you can. Yes republicans and democrats are not the same but I am convinced that more than %50 of the democrat senators will have no qualms about completely changing their supposed ideologies if it is required to keep their seats.

[–] Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 4 days ago (6 children)

Please explain to me how the third party vote would have swayed the election if everyone chose D instead.

[–] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago

Exactly. Trump won Michigan in 2024 by a margin greater than all the third party voters combined.

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[–] chunes@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

This sentiment has never made sense because libertarians steal more votes from replublicans than greens do from dems.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

While that sentiment may be the most frustrating, even if every third party voted against Trump, he still would have won. If even 10% of those voters went to Trump, he would have even won the popular vote. Polling suggests that non voters were about evenly split, so a stronger turnout generically may have done nothing.

The result was mostly due to a very boring reason. Inflation was high so whoever in office gets the blame. Similarly Trump lost mainly because COVID sucked, and anyone would have lost (his response did suck, but we saw that there was no such thing as a sufficiently good response).

People like to imagine some big political cause for good or for ill moving the voters, but by and large it's mostly about how comfortable or uncomfortable they are in the moment to vote for or against the status quo of the moment. But those folks are "just voting" while a very loud minority talks up their "superior" choice to not vote for a lamestream candidate. They speak loudly, but they didn't have enough votes this time to make a difference. They did in 2000 (technically Gore did have the votes when the data was in, but third party would have made it a decisive Gore victory).

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[–] Stez827@sh.itjust.works 7 points 5 days ago (10 children)

While you may think that 3rd party voters were the reason Trump was elected that's simply wrong. Criticizing those who chose to vote third party instead of our current system without rank choice is not helpful and not beneficial to the public.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

You're right. The reason is the millions of voters who decided, after voting for Biden in 2020, that they couldn't bear to so much as cast a vote to stop the literal Nazis in 2024 because [checks notes] they were busy slurping up cheap propaganda slop telling them that voting for Dems was Bad, Actually, on the strength of common left-wing issues that were suddenly SUPER important to cede to the Republicans on rather than compromise with the majority of the fucking party.

I legitimately wonder if COVID putting more people online without the tools to discern much of goddamn anything had an effect.

[–] Stez827@sh.itjust.works 8 points 5 days ago (2 children)

The reason was because honestly Biden didn't do a lot of good. He is obviously much better than trump which is why I voted for Harris in the most recent election but he and therefore Harris were essentially gay Republicans. They wanted to do the same shit on the border as Trump they were just the watered down version of the Republicans. They wouldn't have been as awful as Trump is now but they would still have been bad. If you don't give a left voter base a left candidate they won't vote for them. It is not the fault of the voters but instead the fault of the party and awful candidate choice.

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[–] PaulBunyan@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

If the Dems voted for the 3rd party candidate instead we wouldn’t be in this place. Thanks a lot, Obama.

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