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I never will understand how somebody gets into any facet of medicine (e.g. nurse, doctor, pharmacist) and find it okay to deny anybody healthcare solely based on how the person lives. Like dude, there are better ways to make money and be a bigot at the same time. Insurance CEO comes to mind. Cannon fodder as well.

The absolute gall they have to call it a "lifestyle" like people choose to live that way one day

It's not a fucking lifestyle, LGBTQ+ people just are and they exist

They don't choose to suddenly be that way one day, they have been that way their entire life and discover that about themselves

"I refuse to treat left handed people. It's a lifestyle I don't agree with."

"Is this career path okay with discrimination? Because I have groups I want to die."

What I always find funny about this is, back when I used to do IT, if I refused to do something for someone who had bible verses on their office wall or a cross necklace I would be the one fired.

In many countries it's illegal to refuse treatment so you would literally have to find a new career

I mean, this is correct. You take the oath, you have to live up to it. You will be treating people you don't agree with, and you have to square up with that, or your rep will take a dive.

A friend of mine is a devout Muslim from a very conservative family and a doctor: he believes that his faith has no place in his job and therefore treats all his patients equally.

I think fundamentalists of all religions should take a leaf out of his book.

Someone being LGBT doesn't mean McDonald's is allowed to refuse them service, or ESSO is allowed to refuse to sell them gas, or a gym can refuse them membership. Why the fuck do you think a doctor should be allowed to refuse them treatment for a disease?

This would never fly in today's era. Nor should it.

But about two decades ago I dated a gastroenterologist... I think she had around 13 years of schooling.

Anyways, her first day of med school, they made the entire class watch gay porn. Like vicious, graphic, excessively graphic gay porn.

With of course the professor saying if this makes you uncomfortable, you'd best find a new track. Because you ain't going to make it, this is going to be your life: assholes, boils, pus, cancer, shit, piss, if you're going to be a gastroenterologist you're going to have your head up people's asses your whole career....

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Damn straight. Same thing for pharmacists or any other health official.

If medical professionals are punished for refusing to treat patients because of race, then the same goes for refusing to treat someone for "having different lifestyle".

i dont know who or what to blame but some healthcare professionals are among the most cruel members of society

I have doctors/technicians in the family.

And... WTF.

Do the students know the horrific, gruesome, batshit crazy stuff doctors have to witness and deal with? Not just like objects stuck in orifices, but mentally ill and abusive patients, deathly contagious ones, slow motion tragedy, stuff oozing out of the body you wouldn't believe. Criminal patients, criminal bosses and companies, drama with staff, corporate drama, other fucked up or abusive doctors, drug abuse (from the staff), plenty of sex scandals...

...And their thought is: "Patients that want to rub their genitals on the same sex? Eww. I refuse to deal with that, even professionally."

Wut?

Let's play devil's advocate and say the bigotry is somehow justified (when it's not). Still, how does that even work? Like, an anti-vaxx nurse I know makes at least some sense, by comparison.

Doctors and nurses see and take care of a lot of disgusting people, or people in disgusting states in all walks of the life. Them being LGBT should be the last hill for them to die on. Only shows how sheltered they have lived.

Excellent. And they can take the pharmacists who have "personal or religious beliefs" and get rid of them too. No one should need to ask some other citizen's personal permission for a service I contracted with my own doctor and medical company.

There are even some drug store cashiers that will refuse to sell condoms. Americans need to learn that if it doesnt affect you personally, its not their place to pretend they are a stakeholder in anyone else's life. Stay in your effing lane, American healthcare workers. No one cares what you dont like or what your personal sky-fairy tells you. Last I heard "freedom of religion" was actually more "freedom from the tyranny of religion" when it was implemented by the nations founders.

While they are at it, Americans should stay out of other peoples bedrooms too. If they arent part of the situation, they don't get a vote. As long as its consensual between two adult humans, its no one elses business what they do in there.

It is sad that this is apparently considered to be impressive or even noteworthy.

ah yes, i too considered being a doctor so i can feel comfortable in my job. but then i realized when I'm treating a severed limb in an accident trying to stop buckets of blood flowing, that the person might be gay. ew, imagine. so i decided it's not worth it.

In the 90s I had two different doctors tell me they would not see me as long as I was sexually active. Things seem better these days but its part of the reason us older gays are loathe to disclose to our doctors.

This culture war nonsense has ruined us. In a humane world a person should be embarrassed and shamed for saying something like 'what if I don't feel comfortable with their lifestyle' - in ANY situation, not to mention a medical one. How about just some basic human decency? What about live and let live? Ideas that we'd all want for ourselves but somehow some of us find it so difficult to afford to others.

And before anyone comes at me with some 'paradox of tolerance' nonsense - no, in the tolerant world I dream of, there is no room for the intolerant. We cannot tolerate the intolerant if we want to live in a tolerant world.

The patients sexual orientation does in fact have no influence on their health. The only groups out of the LGBTQIA+ spectrum where you have some "right to deny" healthcare may be trans and intersex people due to them having special conditions and you might not have the knowledge to treat them accordingly. For the rest you are just batshit stupid if you care that much about what people do in their private time.

I wish this is how it was at my medical school. My med school is attached to a deeply religious university and some of our professors said some pretty wild shit in lectures. I was almost always the one to key up on the mic in recorded lectures to fight them on it.

I'm sad to say there were a couple lectures that I was just too demoralized to fight back directly, but I did talk to my classmates to correct the record after those lectures.