They're currently one Adderall fueled tweet away from being locked in cages, the electoral loss has already occurred.
this post was submitted on 21 Jul 2025
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The problem, in my mind:
republicans/regressives (read nazis) actually get in line and vote for the R next to any name that they've heard in the last week (if not just because it has an R), which means that they actually get shit done (making things worse, but they all get behind it is my point).
On the other hand, democrats/leftists/progressives all sit here and fight one another because of reasons, some good, and some just a little silly in the grand scheme of things. This group doesn't know how to effectively work together to slowly and surely get to the same end goal.
The differences here are why regressives are able to rat fuck an entire nation, collectively, because they don't bicker with each other, their allies, about the smaller details.
The democrats/leftists/progressives are too busy trying to fight hundreds of different problems/battles that would all be solved (eventually, mind you, not right away like we wish it would be) by banding together and keeping the movement momentum going AFTER winning the election.
For an example, gaza and trans rights issues. Both VERY valid issues, and they should be discussed. What happened was those same groups focused way too much on the smaller details instead of the big picture. What SHOULD have happened was we voice our concerns on the issues, vote for the person (at this time, Harris) who had the highest chance of those issues being solved, and then keeping the fire going by continuing to press these concerns to THAT administration.
Look at it this way, even though it is too late: if Kamala had won, you'd be able to sit there and protest any actions that weren't being made towards your/your groups issues, and if we could all get on the same god damned page, you would have more allies who are more at ease with the current admin who could protest with you, because things aren't dire enough for them to focus on them and theirs (read fuck you, got mine). Under the orange buffoon, you can now get deported for protesting anything, let alone trans rights and gaza genocide. So, those allies you could've had are now being deported, killed, or arrested, and that makes others scared to protest with you.
TL;DR: Allowing the nazis to win because democrats/leftists/progressives can't see the bigger picture, and choose to focus on their own issues only (or at the very least, make it their highest priority when we should know that's not how it works, unfortunately) is the reason we have the orange shitler in office right now. This group is trying to fight 100 different battles, while regressives lock step and take away all the good we had achieved, instead of banding together and just doing the literal bare minimum (vote in the "neo-lib"). Full stop.
@PugJesus@lemmy.world is right, whether you like it or not.
The establishment Dems are only "allies" on some issues, and cannot be counted on for keeping their stances on those issues or actually doing much about them at all. For the most part, both parties are captured by and depend on corporations and the wealthy. Most politicians have no principles, because the profession attracts and rewards the kind of people who don't. Newsom is obviously being set up to be the next presidential candidate, and it already seems he's beginning to throw trans people under the bus (and is actively hostile to the poor and homeless). I do agree that harm reduction should be practiced; it's necessary, but not sufficient. Getting involved in progressive Democrat candidate campaigns, and voting in primaries is probably the best way forward electorally. It will likely take decades to right the ship though.
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is right, whether you like it or not.
Absolutely correct.
But, let's ponder a little devil's advocate, Mind you, I'm not saying this is right, but there are hard questions.
Is the path out of this whole situation continuing to bunt? If we keep choosing the better of the two options while steadily losing ground, are we not still going to lose ground? Do we believe we're getting back all that ground because the left finally finds and backs someone who is willing to fight for what we need? Will they ever put someone, even truly moderate, out there, or will it be forever the less genocidal candidate?
If we continue to support them, will the left bring us left, or are they going to stay on the tit of the right and keep throwing us under the bus with concessions to fundamental moral questions?
Is this all miserable enough for us to agree to back a third party?
I voted blue because I don't want that moral blood on my hands. But are we just arranging deck chairs?
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so true, I don't enjoy voting blue. I hate the libs and am certainly not a lib, but I think harm reduction is important and I think it's certainly true that protesting under the orange regime is. alot more life threatening for someone like me than under Kamala or Biden. That's not to say that they will actually listen or take action but I'm more confident they won't deploy the national guard and Marines to my city and I think that's worth voting for
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