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[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 170 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

The “visa integrity fee” applies to all visitors who need nonimmigrant visas, which includes tourists, business travelers and international students.

The fee is paid when the visa is issued, according to the provision.

Every international business meeting and conference just cancelled. Visits to Disney World plummet.

Who needs visas: https://brilliantmaps.com/visa-free-usa/

[–] Magister@lemmy.world 55 points 1 day ago (5 children)

It's only to prevent poor people from South America, Africa, Eastern Europe/Asia. Europe/Japan/Australia is still free to go there.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 52 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Apparently it's a big thing in South America to go to Disney World. Family of 4 just added $1k. It'll make you think twice.

[–] BigDaddySlim@lemmy.world 34 points 1 day ago (1 children)

When I flew back from Brazil last year to Orlando, almost the entire plane was families with kids, a lot of which were wearing Disney merch. I bet that flight will soon be much less full as $250 is currently almost R$1,400 per person. R$5,500 additional for a family of 4 is a LOT of money in Brazil.

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[–] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 day ago (3 children)

It’ll make you think twice.

So will the lottery of a lucky few people being sent to their new home in El Salvador.

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[–] ramble81@lemmy.zip 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So a good chunk of people that would be interested in the World Cup…. Yet another reason not to come for them. FIFA is practically going to have to give away tickets to get people to show up at this rate

[–] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

Being in the US even if FIFA gave me a ticket I'd burn it instead of going.

[–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

Professor at a large Canadian university here- interest in our EFL study tours from Europe, Latin America, and East Asian countries has skyrocketed this year as MANY of our partner universities are cancelling (or placing on indefinite hiatus) their US programs.

[–] Waldelfe@feddit.org 7 points 1 day ago

It's not going to stop people from Europe etc., but a lot of people might reconsider their holiday plans if on top of everything they have to pay these steep fees.

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[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 23 points 1 day ago

Well well, my mortal enemy has reappeared. Jk, hope you have a great weekend.

[–] pwnicholson@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

$250 is a rounding error for most international business travelers. That's the cost of one moderately nice business dinner for 3 people. Between airfare, hotels, and meals, that's less than 10% of the cost of almost all international business trips, with the possible exception of some quick jump from Toronto to Detroit for a lunch meeting.

Same for a lot of international leisure travelers.

This is a filter to keep 'the poors' away

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (8 children)

For 1 person you could, but send over a team and it just added up. You'd do it only if you really need to woo a customer, something that directly adds to the bottom line. If it's for training or a casual meeting, why would you? I know the perception is companies have endless money but they really don't and they pinch pennies plenty. Travel adds up.

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[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 59 points 1 day ago

I’m sure this will do wonders for the already declining US tourism industry.

[–] dellish@lemmy.world 56 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Boy am I looking forward to the World Cup next year. If things keep trending this way it will be one of the most enjoyable cluster fucks I'll have ever witnessed.

[–] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 81 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Here’s a reminder that the Olympics was held in Nazi-controlled Berlin, and a team of 18 black athletes from the US thoroughly trounced Hitler’s “master race” talking points by sweeping the medals.

The black athletes then had to return to the US, where segregation was still the norm; many of them struggled to support themselves afterwards, because racism kept them from being hired into any decent jobs.

[–] SereneSadie@lemmy.myserv.one 28 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Anecdotally, they were treated better in Nazi Germany than 30's America.

Really tells it all.

[–] a9cx34udP4ZZ0@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago

Anecdotally, they were treated better in Nazi Germany than 30’s America.

Because they were US citizens. While the US has some pretty... ugly history. If you think Nazi Germany would have treated a random black citizen better than what they got in the US you are absolutely delusional. The only reason they weren't sent to camps with the Jews was because the population was deemed too insignificant to be worth the effort.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_black_people_in_Nazi_Germany

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 10 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

Thanks to wwii and the experience of black soldiers, Paris became a hot-spot for jazz because so many us musicians would come play there to escape the racism at home.

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[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 7 points 21 hours ago

The Nazis got their methods from American segregation laws

[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 17 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

Nice track record at FIFA

Russia 2018

Qatar 2022

USA 2026

Morocco 2030

KSA 2034

2038?

[–] elucubra@sopuli.xyz 6 points 17 hours ago
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[–] cronenthal@discuss.tchncs.de 41 points 1 day ago

Yeah, that's gonna do wonders for tourism. Another 1000,- for a family of four.

[–] LordWiggle@lemmy.world 34 points 1 day ago

Even if they would pay me $250, I wouldn't want to go there.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 32 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

As well as spend 5-50000 days in custody anywhere from seatac to the Everglades concentration camp to the el Salvador concentration camp. The US occupied Guantanimo Bay facility is also on the table, though camp X ray is unlikely to be available

[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 29 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

So as a Canadian here is yet another reason to never visit the newest Oblast USA...

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 9 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Putin prefers to call it "Amerika Oblast".

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[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago

For every traveler who does pay the $250 fee, this is enough to scare away a dozen more who would've spent hundreds or thousands. Good job!

[–] Borger@lemmy.blahaj.zone 26 points 15 hours ago

My trip to the USA in 2016 was one of the most harrowing, dehumanising, and humiliating experiences of my life. And I'm talking specifically about the actual journey, i.e. after the already lengthy, painful process of acquiring a visa.

They treated me like a terrorist. I had to be escorted by 2 armed big dudes around the airport, and they flipped their shit when I reached for my phone to tell my brother it'd be a while before I can come out (just so he wouldn't worry.) They went through my bag and were handling everything SUPER gently, asking if it was "safe" for them to touch it.

They then confiscated my passport, walked off, and literally never returned it to me. I spent hours asking various members of airport staff what to do because I was screwed. Thankfully, eventually one of them found it in a drawer and gave it back to me.

I was a minor BTW. I have had no desire to repeat the experience since.

[–] kamenlady@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago

ha ha

There it is. No one is exempt from getting grifted by the orange felon.

[–] kebab@endlesstalk.org 24 points 1 day ago (4 children)

The headline is misleading.

  1. It's a refundable deposit
  2. It's not for all travelers but only for those on non-immigrant visas. Most notably, does not apply for ESTA travelers
[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 16 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

Do they say when it will be refunded though? Will it be refunded in cash or in TrumpBux? Isn't Trump going to add a 200 dollars tax on it, because reasons?

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[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago

See - everyone who's new to the exciting play-by-play of a trump administration - this is how it goes. They do something like this - so boneheaded, so outrageous, so confoundingly incompetent you think, "That's the stupidest thing there ever could be" and then tomorrow - NOPE! New stupidest thing!

We did this already. It was four years of fucking insane hell. Many, many people died.

We're doing it again. I guess we're the stupidest motherfuckers to ever be.

[–] cybervseas@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How many countries are going to add reciprocal fees? I hope all of them 😕

[–] Ragnor@feddit.dk 23 points 1 day ago

Why would we? If someone wants to visit from the US and spend their money here instead of at home, I'll let them.

[–] x00z@lemmy.world 18 points 16 hours ago

You can just use that $250 to get pegged by an escort and have a better experience.

[–] Wooki@lemmy.world 18 points 23 hours ago

Department of tourism doing the lords woke. Braise jeasus.

[–] teft@piefed.world 17 points 1 day ago

Well that ought to kill any tourist travel to the US. Way to go drumpf! /s

Goddamn the fee gets a fucking inflation adjustment and we're still on 2009 federal minimum wage? This fucking country.

I don't call it the 'land of the fee and home of the easy payment plan' for nothing.

[–] elucubra@sopuli.xyz 13 points 17 hours ago

I believe Netanyahu has nominated Trump for the "Tourism person of the year" award

[–] notsure@fedia.io 13 points 1 day ago

...do you continue to visit the uncle who has willingly covered himself in shit and lit his house on fire?...really?...

[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Apparently it's supposed to be refundable when you leave, but also the government is not expecting to issue many refunds?

I'm surprised that such a tourism-crushing policy was not in the news (or at least not in the news that I saw) before the bill passed.

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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 12 points 16 hours ago

Getting handled like a piece of shit at customs, having to pay an outrageous amount of money for the privilege, and can be "taken care of" by the US GeStaPo. Being a foreign tourist in the US is now more like masochism instead of a relaxing holiday.

[–] Eddbopkins@lemmy.world 9 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

do not come to the united states, you safety, dignity, and sense of self, is not protected by the trump administration

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[–] Doorbook@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I have a feeling they are doing this for people applying for visa for the world cup next year. Last world cup, Qatar saw 3.4 million fan.

With this in place a d we assume third of that number attend the government is looking at maybe 250 million.

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[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (7 children)

What’s funny is that a lot of countries do something like this, but it’s always a far lower price that is insignificant compared to the total vacation cost.

$250 on the other hand is so high that it would impact your vacation budget, specially for the US as it’s selling point ~~is~~ has been that it’s cheap compared to EU or other developed countries.

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[–] susurrus0@lemmy.zip 8 points 16 hours ago

Why yes, I'd love to pay an additional $250 fee to be shipped off to a gulag.

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