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The ‘H/W Quick Erase’ function, which fries the flash memory, should probably have a more forbidding name.

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[–] besselj@lemmy.ca 61 points 1 day ago (3 children)

The magic smoke comes out so that you know its working. It's a very human design.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

I always wanted a novelty 5 inch bay device that was release a small wisp of smoke from the front of the pc case, like mission impossible. It could be a command, or randomized and it would councide with a BSOD or just a power-off command (probably screen off now that I think about it).

[–] seaQueue@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You could probably build a lookalike using an ultrasonic vaporizer. Just fire it up and have it emit a puff of vapor on command.

[–] emeralddawn45@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 hours ago

You could probably do it with a vape from the gas station... theyre basically just mini fog machines with nicotine added.

[–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 5 points 1 day ago

Random would be great for when someones over and you're playing a game.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 3 points 23 hours ago

Smoke? I want the entire thing to explore like a Star Trek console.

[–] IphtashuFitz@lemmy.world 7 points 15 hours ago

Frankly I was hoping to see a lot more… Back in the early 2009’s my employer was hit hard by the capacitor plague - we had something like 700 server motherboards recalled. Before the recall we had a handful of servers suffer “thermal events”. Long story short, the on-board video chip would erupt in a geyser of smoke & flame about 6-8 inches high.

The magic pixies are escaping.

[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Unless you have had three independent data recovery companies confirm the data can't be recovered - I'm not buying it.

For the software erase it says:

Even if power is interrupted during the data wiping process, the drive will automatically resume clearing data the next time it gets power, says Team Group.

We aren’t sure of the wiping algorithm or tech, so we would assume there remains a chance of data recovery after this software-powered wipe, or partial wipe.

For the hardware erase, it says recovery might be more effort than it's worth. So sounds like neither mode gets proven results.

It's essentially a dangerous scam.

[–] notabot@piefed.social 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It does seem like it would be simpler and more reliable to use full disk encryption to encrypt the data before it's written, and just destroy the key if you want to nuke the data.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

That isn't good enough for some very sensitive data

[–] notabot@piefed.social 3 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Destroying the encryption key tends to be the only reliable way to put the data beyond use. Physical destruction techniques like the obe in the article have been tried before, and iften leave the data intact, just destroying the driver side of the chips. It's not easy to retrieve the data, but a sufficiently determined and resourced oppinent can do it.

Obviously, there's no reason not to do both, for added certainty, but if the encryption protocols used in proper FDE are compromised, we have a lot more to worry about.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 7 hours ago

The US has shredders that turn paper into powder. That powder is then disposed to a secure location.

[–] Davel23@fedia.io 12 points 1 day ago

For the hardware erase, it says recovery might be more effort than it's worth. So sounds like neither mode gets proven results.

No, it says that soldering new ICs onto the drive to be able to re-use it is likely more effort than it's worth. The original ICs are still burnt.

[–] cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 day ago (3 children)
[–] p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Lies. I see no self-destruction in action here.

[–] cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

did you stare long enough?

[–] p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 hours ago

I stared at it for 10 seconds, which is double the advertised time it's expected to explode. I want a refund!

[–] IphtashuFitz@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago

Came here for old school Mission: Impossible reference and wasn’t disappointed.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 1 points 1 day ago
[–] fartographer@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

No one wants to microwave their mass storage anymore. 😡

We just keep making it easier for perry the platypus

[–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

like literally a turn this into even more ewaste button?

[–] SheeEttin@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

No, it just wipes the encryption keys.

Edit: actually it has two modes. The second does make it e-waste, but I don't think people are going to be invoking that mode often.

[–] xylol@leminal.space 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Only if the FBI is at your door I assume

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 5 points 23 hours ago

What if they come to the window?

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 3 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Then you won't have time to push the button, especially with a hinged cover. They know they're coming, you won't.

If you're worried about your door getting kicked in, then you need to take out the battery, fully encrypt the hard drive, and wrap the power cable around your ankle.

You should probably have some plan for if you're put under duress, but I sure don't and would immediately decrypt all of my secret gay porn.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 3 points 13 hours ago

I think the red button was only for the demo

[–] lemming741@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

I've been H/W Quick Eraseing ESP32s and ATMEL chips for over a decade now

[–] fubarx@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Not buying it, unless there's smoke involved at the end.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 2 points 7 hours ago

"SSD smoke. Don't breathe this!"

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 1 points 23 hours ago

Good morning, Mr. Phelps...

[–] dukatos@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago

That music, Jesus...