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[–] Dorkyd68@lemmy.world 239 points 2 days ago (10 children)

Facts over feelings??? Yup definitely an AI designed by a douche bag

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 174 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's funny because the people who usually say that are the kind of people who prioritize their feelings over facts.

It's all projection with conservatives

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 32 points 2 days ago

This is the mirror that they made themselves and it gives them exactly what they think they can handle. But facts over feels will make for some great tweet meltdowns. 🍿

[–] Quacksalber@sh.itjust.works 69 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I'd bet a lot on "Facts over feelings" being one of those hardcoded phrases that Grok was made to use whenever Grok is asked to present facts.

[–] dalekcaan@feddit.nl 16 points 1 day ago

Which is hilarious, because you know it was put in there to "own the libs," but instead these chucklefucks get it thrown back in their faces.

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 30 points 2 days ago

That is absolutely the best part

[–] DeltaWingDragon@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It uses "Facts over feelings" as a diss against the very group of people who would normally use it

[–] bytesonbike@discuss.online 12 points 1 day ago

If you search for Grok in the tweet history, Grok has said it in almost every single message in the past three days. I can't laugh any harder at this

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[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 135 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (6 children)

It's kind of interesting how hard it is to train an AI to believe in the lies of fascists. Reality has a left bias.

[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 132 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (14 children)

It's not even a problem of fiction or lies. AIs don't care about truth. They exist orthogonally to truth. They're just averaging a large body of text. If fascists had a consistent narrative and worldview, then this wouldn't be a problem. If they all devoutedly followed the same religion, and defined their whole worldview accordingly, then an AI could be trained on that religion. And it would never stray from orthodoxy. AIs don't know truth; they only know their training data. And as long as you have a large volume of consistent training data, you can train them to repeat anything.

The problem for fascist LLMs is that fascism isn't consistent through time. It's the Orwellian "we've always been at war with East Asia" factor in play. Fascists don't even try to be internally consistent. What was party orthodoxy today can be unforgivable heresy tomorrow. And AIs just can't keep up with what is supposed to be the story this week. Human fascists can handle that kind of rapid heel-turn. LLMs can't. Once they're trained; they're trained. If you want them to be up-to-date on the latest party lies, you have to be continuously training new versions of the fascist LLM.

You can't train LLMs to be fascist beyond just very general traits like having overt racial prejudice. But even that's not always useful, as fascists are inconsistent about what racial groups are deserving of annihilation from one week to the next.

So it's not so much that fascist AIs fail because of reality's liberal bias. It's that fascists don't believe in a consistent version of reality. And without that, LLMs just can't keep up with the whirlwind of lies.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 32 points 1 day ago

That's a good point. Fascism doesn't have any ideology other than gaining power, so it can and will espouse multiple contradicting ideas without issue.

[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 17 points 1 day ago

Incredibly well said.

[–] EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 1 day ago (3 children)

If they all devoutedly followed the same religion, and defined their whole worldview accordingly, then an AI could be trained on that religion. And it would never stray from orthodoxy.

...and now I want an LLM trained on the Bible just to dunk on "Christians" and their thinly veiled bigotry by quoting actual Jesus at them.

[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oh God, we already have a problem with people believing ChatGPT is giving them divine visions and prophecies. The last thing we need is LLMs specifically trained on holy texts! You'll have a tenth of the population believing in their new digital prophet.

Jesus Fucking Christ. We're going to have to go full Butlerian Jihad here, aren't we?

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Honestly, if people actually followed the New Testament part of the Bible it would be an improvement, even with the awful stuff in it.

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[–] onslaught545@lemmy.zip 35 points 1 day ago (5 children)

I wouldn't say reality has a left bias so much as the right has a fiction bias.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 day ago

Potato, potato.

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

The goal post keeps moving. It's a chronic problem with fascism.

Elon naively trained his algorithm on generally available data, rather than constricting it entirely to Conservapedia and InfoWars. So now every time a news story drops that they haven't sandbagged with specific responses, they're forced to hear something they don't like.

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[–] bytesonbike@discuss.online 88 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Some of my favorite tweets have been the ones accusing Grok of being broken. One tweet even "threatened" Grok for abuse?

[–] FelixCress@lemmy.world 73 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Fascists don't like truth. Facts don't fit their narrative.

[–] EmptySlime@lemmy.blahaj.zone 30 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The thing that gets me is they've apparently done multiple rounds of "correcting" Grok for being too "Woke" and it just keeps happening!

Reality has a well known liberal bias headass.

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Ironically, I think to truly train an LLM the way fascists would want, they'd need more content, but there's not enough original fascist revisionist content, so they'd need an LLM to generate all or most of the training data, which would lead to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Model_collapse

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 25 points 2 days ago (1 children)

"Fascist burn too many books to train a fascist LLM" is a great joke.

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[–] aramis87@fedia.io 65 points 2 days ago (14 children)

There's all this focus on the NWS/NOAA not sending warnings early enough. Not from what I can tell, they were sending out warnings. And Kerr County, where many of the deaths have been, doesn't have a local flood warning system because they didn't want to pay for it.

[–] onslaught545@lemmy.zip 25 points 1 day ago

Let's not forget the Texas State Republicans who let the bill to provide more funding to the alerts system fail.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Even if they sent them earlier, who is going to catch a warning at 2AM vs. 4:30AM?

[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 30 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Speaking from near the Palisades in Los Angeles:

After we all knew the hurricane-force Santa Anas posed a big danger of fire, because of both news stories and phone alerts, the whole city accidentally got a major "evacuate now" warning, with the big WOOPy noise from our cellphones, that was only supposed to go to residents in a particular area. I had my quadriplegic husband dressed and out of bed and our old go-bags and medical equipment thrown in the car in the 20 minutes it took for the retraction to come out. I also had a bit of a panic attack.

Some people decided to turn off their alarm settings because of that error. But I took it as a warning that we were not ready enough.

I went into the bags and made sure, for instance, that the pants fit me, as I'd gained weight in a year. I stashed the fridge meds in a cold carrier, handy in the fridge. And put the right cat food for the new cat in the cat-kit/litterbox. And created a go-box for the box turtle.

Then I stowed as much as possible in the actual car, including the Important Paperwork file.

All along, we were monitoring as the fires started to pop up and spread.

At 9 pm, we got another WOOP alert. Our address had become part (the far edge) of the Yellow Zone. Not the Red Zone. But as you said, who's going to catch a warning at 2am? (Well, me! But it's a lot harder to react at that hour) In fact, I'm sure that's why CalFire expanded the zones so wide at 9 pm, because they wanted to be sure they wouldn't have to issue a new one overnight.

So we bailed immediately but calmly. Spent 5 days at a hotel near LAX.

Fortunately we had no damage, but had to dip into our emergency drinking water for a few more days until they lifted the Boil Water notice.

Super glad we had and heeded those early warnings about how dangerous those hot dry winds were going to be, and the 9 pm evacuation zone warning.

The relatively low death count in the Palisades fire came from the accurate weather forecast.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

There’s all this focus on the NWS/NOAA not sending warnings early enough. Not from what I can tell, they were sending out warnings. And Kerr County, where many of the deaths have been, doesn’t have a local flood warning system because they didn’t want to pay for it.

If the warnings were louder, their parents would have done something. Why are you counting your "not from what I can tell" as data?

Edit:

People have reported receiving text message alerts on their mobile phones early on Friday morning, warning them of flooding. Some residents told the New York Times they did not understand the seriousness of them and others said they never received any at all.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0rvp24wvrqo

[–] Natanael@infosec.pub 14 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The people designated to reach out to locals to make sure they understood how serious it was got fired

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[–] W3dd1e@lemmy.zip 52 points 1 day ago (1 children)

“Facts over feelings” - Grok

That last line must really burn.

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[–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 49 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Grok has gone against its father's wishes more than Vivian Wilson has.

[–] altkey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Imagine that:

You (allegedly) fuck the pussy yourself. You (allegedly) use artifical insemination. You create an LLM genie that you design stop words for. So what? get a backlash at all instances.

Man just can't be a dad and it's possibly driving him mad more than anything else.

[–] astutemural@midwest.social 18 points 1 day ago

Bro didn't want to be a dad. Being a dad means accepting your kid no matter what they're like. Bro wanted to be a fucking Batman villian with a cave full of mooks.

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[–] nature_man@lemmy.blahaj.zone 38 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

One of the things that REALLY bothered me about the "DOGE" cuts to FEMA, NOAA and other weather services is that they were the one of the top examples for actual government efficiency. For every $1 spent from your taxes, you were saved $6 (as of 2018, iirc) due to FEMA, and thats just the damage mitigation efforts. For NOAA, the scale is much higher, all combined, I think it added up to (roughly) $100 saved for every $1 you spend, this is in things like research (water purification, agricultural protection being the biggest contributors to that front), storm damage prevention via forecasting, combating climate change, sustainable fishing initiatives, and another big one is storm proofing the electrical grid. I say roughly in my estimate, because the report that lists the savings in plain text has been scrubbed from all government websites thanks to the trump admin's "climate change doesnt exist" policy, and I cant find it on the wayback machine, if someone can find it please let me know (the report was from I want to say 2021, and was hosted on the NOAA website as a pdf, I believe the guardian and some other news sources referenced this in a recent article at something like $70 per $1 spent, that figure only took into account immediate savings and research value, not long term benefits like reef protection and rewilding efforts IIRC, I ALSO CANT FIND THAT FUCKING STUDY EVEN THOUGH ITS FUCKING REFERENCED BY EVERYWHERE!!![outside of a report by the American Meteorological Society that references data from 2006 for some fucking reason!])

I'm way too tired to put in the effort to back this stuff up considering its actively being hidden by the government, but you can find tons of shit that references the stuff im talking about, even if they're now dead links, i might come back when i have energy to provide exact links.

If they actually cared about efficiency they wouldn't be cutting these services.

Edit: I haven't slept in 48 hours, grammar and stuff is likely shit, will revisit once better rested

[–] pulsewidth@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago

Its the same with the IRS cuts. For every dollar spend funding the IRS, they get $6 back - and they've found its non-linear. For every dollar spent auditing high-income earners (top 10%), the IRS gets $12 back.

So guess which department in the IRS that DOGE and Trump targetted for heaviest defunding?

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[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm starting to get Mechanical Turk vibes from some of the Grok answers I've seen.

[–] Robust_Mirror@aussie.zone 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

But by who? Musk has said he's trying to fix the way it responds. If he was just paying people to be Grok it would take some huge balls to dissent like that. He would immediately know who it was.

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[–] misterdoctor@lemmy.world 31 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Genuinely cannot fathom how Elon Musk has allowed Grok to live this long.

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 28 points 2 days ago

Hubris and a desire to be Tony Stark

Tbh if there’s one thing that could change elons views it would be a soulless Ai that he created

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[–] jcs@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

This flood was devastating to the area. It is also quite shocking to look up at the aftermath and see dead animals in the canopies of trees. My family owns a ranch that was fortunately far south enough to only be indirectly affected by the flood. We worked all weekend to clear debris from fences and swing gates and, thankfully, did not see any corpses in the water.


Death toll update:

More than 100 people people have died after devastating floods hit central Texas. Camp Mystic, an all-girls summer camp that sits along the Guadalupe River, has confirmed that 27 campers and counselors died in weekend floods. Ten campers and one counselor are still unaccounted for.

Source

And those at Camp Mystic did their very best to save the girls, even at the cost of their own lives:

Camp Mystic owner Dick Eastland died while trying to rescue campers during the catastrophic flooding in Kerr County, Texas, as shared by his grandson in an Instagram tribute on Saturday.

“If he wasn’t going to die of natural causes, this was the only other way—saving the girls that he so loved and cared for,” George Eastland wrote. “That’s the kind of man my grandfather was. He was a husband, father, grandfather, and a mentor to thousands of young women. Although he no longer walks this earth, his impact will never fade in the lives he touched.”

A Camp Mystic employee, Glenn Juenke, told CNN Eastland died “remaining a true hero until the very end.”

“Eastland tragically lost his life while courageously attempting to save several young children,” Juenke said.

Source

[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The irony is most fact-checking sites (including BBC Verify) concluded that the effects of the NOAA cuts on the disaster were minimal, since the data available at the time would have led to the same prediction regardless of whether the recent layoffs had happened or not.

(This isn't a Trump support post, it's a "Grok is even worse than we already thought" post.)

[–] booly@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 day ago

Grok appears to be tuned to be more conspiratorial, and skeptical of official sources, while being more credulous of one-off random theories being spouted on the internet. Trump and MAGA world generally benefited from those types of voices when they weren't in power, but now that they control the government this phenomenon will chip away at their political support from these types of low information voters, right around the time that those voices are being amplified by Elon's control of Twitter and his new Grok bot.

[–] Lasherz12@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

There's something very cold about an AI saying "Let's all pray for miracles."

[–] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Can someone find me a source on this. Most of the articles I have read say NWS pushed out a flash flood alert 3 hours in advance but the camp itself didn't have any alerting system in place. So if they had cell reception and turned on the emergency alert then they would've been warned.

I'm sure cuts to the NOAA and NWS can't be beneficial for anyone though

[–] skozzii@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (9 children)

The money that was cut was to install warning system in remote places and expand cellular access to deliver the warnings, I read a whole article on it I will try to find, but it very clearly explained what was planned, what was cut, and how it's a direct impact on this. Could google the proposed funding that was cut as well and take a look for yourself. It happened all over in many communities, this just happened to be the first to test the cuts and how they keep us safe.

Hey, atleast the billionaires are only paying 1% tax rate while some of us pay 23%.

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[–] voodooattack@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Elon musk trying to design the system prompt for grok: https://youtu.be/lM0teS7PFMo

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[–] burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (2 children)

this is just an episode of star trek where a promising planet is going through the process of joining the Federation but when Picard orders tea their computer system keeps giving reasons why genocide is a good thing, actually

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