It's chaotic neutral until you hit the evil timeline
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Danny Pudi ftw 👍
Cool… cool, cool, cool!
Hot… hot, hot, hot!
That's still CN, and firmly in the murderhobo category insofar as "haha, it's a phase" handwaving as canonical explanation. 😶
I don't know that system of a down music video
The copaganda show .... as chaotic good?
No. Heck no.
The Good Place is a much better fit.
Did you even see the last 2 seasons? They actually really confronted those issues and outright said that they weren't really the good guys, the show tackled multiple times that the system is completely broken. I get if it was Law and Order being mad, but man you're mad at the only cop show I've ever seen acknowledging and trying to tackle these issues. I mean, that's literally why they made the captain gay and black, and that's just one example.
You just listed the exact reasons the show is copaganda.
American Police are not lovable goofballs full of historically oppressed minorities realizing they are the bad guys. They are not "tackling issues", they are lampshading and white washing them. Take the episode where Peralta meets the old detective from the book he loves on and is like
"Oh wow, old school police were racist... glad they aren't anymore!"
And holt reminded him that it's still a narrative that needed to be corrected. What about the one where Terry was profiled? Or holt was denied his promotion?
It's pretty clear that you wouldn't approve of any cop show that tries to work through these issues, so I'm not going to bother arguing with you. I think they did a great job, a lot of those episodes were very hard to watch because they were confronted with choosing a career under one pretended and then saw the reality. To do that with a comedic tone is incredibly hard, and I think they did well.
It's pretty clear that you wouldn't approve of any cop show that tries to work through these issues
Well I definitely wouldn't say that, I'm a big fan of The Wire and We Own This City. All three are different flavors of copaganda, I just feel B99 lampshaded systemic issues instead of confronting them.
However I do agree that there isn't use in arguging, and since we both made our opinions clear you go have a good day. ♥️
I'll also not argue, not having to write valid arguments makes life a lot easier, but I want to chime in and say both brooklyn 99 and the wire are really good.
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Oh wow, old school police were racists… glad they aren’t anymore!”
Whoosh
You
Somehow I feel like there’s probably sarcasm on that sentence that doesn’t translate from spoken words to text.
I didn't think it was possible to take that sentence literally, especially knowing it is from a comedy show about the police.
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eh, woke cops is a liberal fantasy, to be sure. Brooklyn 99 was put in an awkward spot in 2020 and did its best to try and talk about them. I do think it was made with the best of intentions, and the cop stuff is mostly like, a parody of cop stuff tropes, rather than a fetishization of the cops themselves (like, say, Law and Order.) Maybe it doesn't excuse it totally, but it is really worse than say, Parks and Rec's cheery depiction of depiction of politics (especially when it goes national)?
Part of what convinces me of it's earnestness is how focused it was on representation. Theres a story about how when Stefanie Beatriz found out Melissa Fumero got the part of Amy, she was convinced well, that was it, they cast the Latina woman. I forget if they made the part of Rosa for her or they liked her so much they just cast her as it, but like, the cast being so diverse stands out compared to some of the more whiter casts on this very list. (and Im not knocking any show on this list, honestly. I liked them all except for The Office, which I never watched, and whatever LN is)
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None of them fit as well as Sunny for chaotic evil.
Community is pretty damn good for CN
Fey and Poehler occupying the entire Lawful column is insane, and the truth.
Yes, Kenneth. :)
Ok the only two I recognize are also the ones that have the show name on them. What about the other 7?
Parks and Recreation - Scrubs - Brooklyn Nine Nine.
Kimmy Schmidt - The Office - Community.
30 Rock - Arrested Development - Its Always Sunny in Philadelphia.
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This a good 70% of what I watch
All these are good (although I never saw the end of The Office), but I'm chaotic evil. IASIP is my all time favourite US sitcom (Peep Show being my favourite UK sitcom).
Evil is my favorite row here. Scrubs shares my #1 spot with 30 Rock, but only because of how much heart it has. The only show that matches the evil row for number of laughs for me is Community.
I didn't think I actually watch a lot of TV, but fuck me, I've seen pretty much every episode of every one of these shows, minus Brooklyn 99. Made it like 3 seasons and got bored with it.
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The office is in no way neutral, it’s definitely in the evil scale. You’re meant to hate all the characters.
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I wonder where Schitts Creek would fall
try House for chaotic good
also maybe instead of "random shows that some dude watches" you could go for a theme like medical shows, cop shows, whatever?
(oops all the cop shows would be lawful evil)
These are all sitcoms.
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All these shows are bangers, well done!
Not my creation, to be clear
I'm Chaotic Evil. I've been watching IASIP since season 1 and could probably quote every line.
Chaotic evil for sure.
I only know 3 of these shows and they're all awesome
If you like any of these shows, I strongly recommend the rest. They all scratch that same itch for me, extremely well-written, clever comedies (that is to say, the jokes are often clever, the characters are often not).
Lawful Good: Parks and Recreation
Neutral Good: Scrubs
Chaotic Good: Brooklyn 99
Lawful Neutral: Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt
True Neutral: The Office
Chaotic Neutral: Community
Lawful Evil: 30 Rock
Neutral Evil: Arrested Development
Chaotic Evil: It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia
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