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[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 273 points 2 days ago (6 children)

She said that there's been a 500 percent increase against ICE agents who are just "trying to do their jobs and remove public safety threats from... communities."

Exactly what the Nazis who ran extermination camps claimed.

[–] natecox@programming.dev 73 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I loathe and despise using percentages like this.

500% sounds super scary, but is meaningless without providing the baseline. If there was only one instance before and now there’s 5 it isn’t a significant increase but 500% sure sounds scary.

[–] tabular@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Worse still it's not even clear what is being discussed. It implied "violence" but that is a wide range from just pushing to serious shooting.

% can also be misleading when a scale is arbitrary. A temperature increase measured in Fahrenheit will be a rather different % when converted to Kelvin.

[–] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 day ago

ICE also keep getting caught on camera lying about being threatened before they start beating some innocent

[–] Mamdani_Da_Savior@lemmy.world 10 points 20 hours ago

Sadly I haven't heard of any ICE officers getting shot in the line of duty.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

We all know that cops will try to charge you with assaulting them if you so much as shrug while being arrested. And they'll contrive situations just so they can do that. I'd say that makes their statistics meaningless without specific details and proof.

[–] RobotZap10000@feddit.nl 34 points 2 days ago (1 children)

"Just following orders..."

[–] griff@lemmings.world 9 points 1 day ago

Unjust, following orders

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's so blatant as if theyre using an instruction manual or something 🤔

[–] Mamdani_Da_Savior@lemmy.world 10 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Stephen Miller is basically a Nazi

[–] KingPorkChop@lemmy.ca 15 points 20 hours ago

Stephen Miller is basically a Nazi

He's a fucking JEWISH Nazi - which is the worst kind of self loathing Nazi.

He'd be the first in the showers when the real Nazis come to town.

He's a pathetic loser.

[–] MrSelatcia@lemmy.world 13 points 20 hours ago

Stephen Miller is exactly a Nazi

[–] frenchfryenjoyer@lemmings.world 19 points 20 hours ago

Exactly. Basically "wahhhh this is making it harder for the kidnappers to kidnap people!! stop using the app they're just trying to do their jobs pls feel sorry for them 😭 "

someone on bsky did the match and found out that 700% increase is still only like 70 incidents (i forget who it was that posted it)

[–] Pendorilan@lemmy.world 6 points 18 hours ago

Well, when you kidnap people in the street assaults against you can happen.

[–] three_trains_in_a_trenchcoat@piefed.social 95 points 2 days ago (2 children)

"He's giving a message to criminals where our federal officers are," Bondi said. "...we are looking at it, we are looking at him, and he better watch out, because that's not a protected speech. That is threatening the lives of our law enforcement officers throughout this country."'

Actually, I believe it is protected speech. There are apps that let people know where speed traps are. You mean it's not constitutionally protected to say to someone "hey, did you see the cop down on the corner?" Ridiculous. Of course, what she means to say is that the constitution doesn't matter and laws are made up now, and they're just going to do whatever the fuck they want. They're just not quuuuuite ready to go through the trouble of literally setting the constitution on fire yet.

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[–] dataprolet@lemmy.dbzer0.com 81 points 1 day ago (4 children)
[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 47 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Glad others have pointed this out. Their "reasons" for not supporting 70% of worldwide smartphones via Android seemed very suspect.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I think he thinks HE had to store the information, and if he isn't the one storing it, it's anonymous.

Except, on Android, you can also do it where only google stores the information and he doesn't have to store any. And there are no user name or passwords or accounts involved to listen to specific channels like he claims.

You can collect this information, and you'd be able to write a more custom push service, but it isn't needed at all, but Google and Apple will always know who is getting the messages.

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[–] douglasg14b@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Lol, called it.

Incompetence and false bravado is all but guaranteed with development teams. Especially when it's closed source, not audited, and has minimal room for feedback loops.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

You don't even need to audit a closed source app to know that Apple knows which devices its sending pushes to. It works because they know.

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[–] DahGangalang@infosec.pub 26 points 1 day ago

Thanks for the heads up.

Saw it wasn't on F-Droid and was going to ask for source page (to get through Obtanium), but looks like they're allergic to android and derivates. Appreciate you pointing to references.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

...iOS forces uses Apple services including getting apps through Apple...

Can't speak to the rest of the claims, but Android practically does too. If one has to sideload an app, you've lost 99% of users, if not more.

It makes me suspect they're not talking about the stock systems OEMs ship.

Relevant XKCD: https://xkcd.com/2501/

[–] Zak@lemmy.world 9 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (2 children)

It makes me suspect they’re not talking about the stock systems OEMs ship.

The developers of GrapheneOS, an independent, security-oriented Android distribution are probably not only talking about stock OEM Android. What they're saying is true about stock OEM android though.

That's a separate issue from whether users are forced to get all their software from a specific source, which is also separate from whether users will actually use other sources when given the option.

On Android, developers can offer users a way to install an app that isn't easily traced to their identity and on iOS they can't. Furthermore, an Android app can be both on the Play store and available from other sources; there's no exclusivity.

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[–] thedruid@lemmy.world 81 points 2 days ago (12 children)

Good. I hope they're terrified. The same as their victims

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[–] Exeous@lemmy.world 39 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 33 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Send & Receive alerts about ICE raids and activity in your area. Stop ICE Alerts Network works with technology already built into your phone without the need to download an app.

This is the way.

[–] Zron@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You’ve still got to connect to their servers and they can monitor who connects to what.

I wouldn’t trust it without a non-US based VPN. We should assume anything in the US is compromised by the fed, and that they are watching.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

they can monitor who connects to what.

They can also not do that.

We should assume anything in the US is compromised by the fed

International VPNs are not immune from US subpoena.

[–] Zron@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

international VPNs are not immune from US subpoena

And condoms are only 98% effective.

A condom and VPN work on the same principle: a layer of protection. No protection is ever 100% effective, but you can at least try.

Remember, they’re already building the camps. It’s only a matter of time before “helping illegals” is a crime that gets you sent to the camps. I’d rather make the fascists work for it at least.

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[–] HertzDentalBar@lemmy.blahaj.zone 26 points 19 hours ago

Only good Nazi is a dead Nazi.

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 15 points 2 days ago

Clearly it's just safety minded individuals acquiring it. This app helps keep communities safe from unmarked armored vehicles filled with masked criminal cop impersonators.

[–] ScrambledEggs@lazysoci.al 9 points 1 day ago (18 children)

Is there an android version?

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[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 9 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

These dumb fuckers STILL haven’t figured out the Streisand effect.

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