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cross-posted from: https://sh.itjust.works/post/41402388

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[–] exu@feditown.com 107 points 1 day ago

Awesome! Now let's get the EU one as well, much closer than before now. (840'000)

[–] PrivateNoob@sopuli.xyz 98 points 1 day ago (1 children)

WHAAAT LETSGOOOOO DABABY. Thank you PirateSoftware for the publicity :3

[–] atro_city@fedia.io 70 points 1 day ago (10 children)

And fuck you too btw PirateSoftware :)

[–] rustyfish@lemmy.world 57 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 35 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

Wait untill people realize that Ross Scott has had a running show, 'Freeman's Mind', going back to basically the fucking machinima days, where he just does a playthrough of all of Half Life and voices Gordon's inner thoughts.

Its still on his youtube channel!

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL6PNZBb6b9LvDWpI-5CPYUxG1Rnm-vr9V

We are going to need another petition to get Ross an honorary title, a goddamned bust of an upraised fist in an HEV suit, clenching a crowbar, with 'For Exceptional Valor and Dutiful Service in the Defense of Video Gaming' emblazoned on its base.

Let the memes flow!

[–] TheTetrapod@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I remember Freeman's Mind, but I have no idea who any of the people in those pictures are.

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[–] atro_city@fedia.io 9 points 1 day ago

Oh that's good. I like that.

[–] Luccajan@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Is this about the WoW incident? Or dit something else happen?

[–] PumaStoleMyBluff@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

He has made videos and numerous comments directing his audience not to sign, claiming it will kill games.

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[–] Robin@lemmy.world 81 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Don't stop yet! They might still remove incorrectly filed entries.

[–] chrislowles@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (2 children)

Pedal to the metal on all fronts!

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[–] truxnell@aussie.zone 72 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Jesus what, a week or so ago this was dead in the water.

[–] seralth@lemmy.world 35 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Nothing brings the internet together like hating a sexist self centered egotistical narcissist.

Seriously pirate has been an asshole for like 20 years. He's been banned from furry communities, kicked out of second life communities, rejected from eve communities.

Now people are realizing how much of a scum bag he is in the streamer community.

The only upside his asshole self centeredness has draw crazy attention to the partition.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 14 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Who? I seriously have no idea who you're talking about.

I honestly think that the main reason this has kicked off is that up until about a week ago it wasn't really advertised. I didn't even know that it started the petition up again, I knew the original one failed because parliament closed and for some reason that meant the petition had to end.

[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 17 points 16 hours ago

PirateSoftware (Thor) is a streamer and a game developer who is a narcissistic asshole. He's been very against the SKG petition since I think the start since if it passed he would be forced to keep supporting his games once they fail (it's happened before) and made a video trying to torpedo the petition some months ago by spreading disinformation that's easily disproven with a halfway decent level of reading comprehension. Recently the guy who runs the SKG petition announced that Piratesoftware was successful, which caused a lot of big streamers and Youtubers to catch on and call PirateSofware out while endorsing SKG, including MoistCritikal. Since then the number of signings have skyrocketed.

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[–] VitoRobles@lemmy.today 32 points 1 day ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

Like the McRib and chlamydia, we're back baby!

[–] zipzoopaboop@lemmynsfw.com 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] CheezyWeezle@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

And herpes! The gift that keeps on giving!

[–] Gloomy@mander.xyz 7 points 20 hours ago

And Fashism!

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[–] rozodru@lemmy.world 62 points 1 day ago (3 children)

What's funny about this whole thing is it's almost like PirateSoftwares days in EVE Online when he invited everyone to Pochven space cause he thought he was hot shit and then proceeded to get his ass handed to him and he rage quit the game. He brought attention to something that ended up having the opposite effect of what he wanted.

Granted he was absolutely shit at EVE regardless of what he's told his audience. couldn't fit a ship to save his life, ran for CSM and no one voted for him, then rage quit when everyone and even his own corp proceeded to kick his teeth in.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Wow, I hadn't even heard of that particular story of Thor being an egotistical asshat.

I'd been looking into the WoW debacle, then stumbled into other stuff, but nope, that one's new to me.

[–] intrapt@sh.itjust.works 30 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I was in his corp (my old one merged with his, I had no idea who he was for quite a while), and this... isn't exactly accurate. First, from what I remember, he left on okay terms with the corp.

There was a laundry list of issues with Pochven, a lot of them due to CCP just not bothering to fix issues that the players reported, and moving devs who did want to try and fix some of the issues to different areas of the game. It got to the point where it wasn't economically viable to live in the area, which reduced how many ships we could field, and the number of people even willing to join.

CCP also took forever to decide on how wormholes interacted with the region, and changed those interactions frequently. Some of these were great, for instance there was a point where most of the wormholes linked to wormhole systems, and it was a complicated (and dangerous) dance to get people in and out of the region undetected. CCP ended up going with the worst possible interaction: many wormholes directly linked to nullsec space, where massive alliances could easily find them and send massive fleets through with little effort.

He wasn't the only one to quit, to be honest I'm surprised he stayed for as long as he did given how he acts now.

Is Thor an egotistical narcissist? Absolutely. Was this a case of that? Not really

By the way, this is a statement he put out alongside the other two main groups in Pochven. I can tell you for a fact that 90+% of the players who spent most of their time in Pochven felt this move was absolutely justified*:

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Edit* And the other ~10% disagreed with the destruction of the citadels, not the sentiment of the statement

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 1 day ago

Well hey, I very much appreciate more info from someone who was actually there!

[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The worst part is that this are far from the only two events. He has been kicked from several other guilds, for exactly the same narcissistic and egoistic behavior. If everywhere you go it smells like shit, at some point you have to start checking your own shoes. He is just always adamant that it's other people's fault that it smells like shit, when he has full diaper.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Yep.

There's the whole... apparently when Thor was essentially high school to post high school age, he managed to cajole a younger SecondLife user, who was actually decently talented at creating like clothes and custom player models...

So in SecondLife, you can actually make real money that way, you can cash out the SecondLife currency for actual realworld money.

Yeah SecondLife was actually quite a pioneer in a lot of ways, from a technical and just 'what even is a video game' standpoint, lets say uh 'eccentric' community and reputation aside.

And Thor basically convinced this other SL user, who was like 5 years younger than him... that he could make them both more money as a sort of salesman, promoter, of this other persons user made content... if they profit share.

I may have some details wrong here, but basically... Thor did basically nothing in terms of promotion, yet he made a significant chunk of change off of this other person.

Because ... SL just has basically a universal market you can list things in.

Like uh, Escape from Tarkov, or FF14's auction house or what not, fully built into the game... but even more so as it actually allows you to cash out to real world money.

its not like you'd have to do some kind of technical wizardry to enable sales, its not like Thor whipped up some kind of gray/black market system / payment processor way back when PayPal was still a fairly new idea.

Alongside that, there were allegations of basically ERP going waaay too far.

Now, this other person has I think entirely denied any kind of ERP abuse, sexual or just normal relationship abuse, says everything was fine...

But a good number of people seem to think that the essentially digital labor theft Thor did, basically amounts to its own kind of grooming, exploitation.

[–] seralth@lemmy.world 7 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Don't call him Thor call him what he is, a loser. Sullying the good name of Norse gods.

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[–] Zonetrooper@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago

Haha, holy shit. Somehow I had never connected that Piratesoftware was Maldavius. Yeah, that explains so, so very much of this entire SKG debacle.

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[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 46 points 1 day ago

Keep going! Who knows how many signatures will be ruled as invalid.

[–] ordnance_qf_17_pounder@reddthat.com 43 points 23 hours ago (1 children)
[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 27 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

I American't sign European petitions

[–] sip@programming.dev 23 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

no worries, you can help as this will benefit you too. if you are on any online gaming comunities with Europeans, you can share the link.

[–] Hobo@lemmy.world 40 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (7 children)

Both are past 100k now! I want to issue a special "fuck you" to all the idiot streamers that tried to kill SKG. And of course a special "go fuck yourself" to PirateSoftware and Asmongold for being fuckwit right wing tools for corporations. You have a special place in my heart as illiterate lapdogs to shitty corporations and right wing shills.

[–] lowleekun@ani.social 12 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Asmonpoop is a moronic bum and people went from "this weirdo is strangely entertaining" to " let me hear what my moronic hobo-idol has to say about this".

It is a little bit like how people supported Drumpf as a joke first.

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[–] smeg@feddit.uk 21 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Didn't it already reach the threshold last year and the government (or the civil servant in charge of rejecting every petition) closed it saying that current consumer protection laws already apply?

[–] Contramuffin@lemmy.world 58 points 1 day ago (4 children)

My understanding is that they misunderstood the petition, so this new one is rephrased in an attempt to avoid another misinterpretation

[–] setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago

Politicians seem very good at misunderstanding things when it suits them.

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[–] r00ty@kbin.life 41 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They didn't close it. They provided an answer early. That as they see it, existing trade and consumer law should cover games and they don't plan on carving out extra legislation for it but they will "keep an eye on it".

Now it is over 100k, it doesn't actually mean anything more than they "might" debate it in parliament.

Now, don't get me wrong. I signed the petition, and I think they SHOULD look into it. But, my old cynical bones tell me that even if they do have a debate in parliament. It will be at a time when there will be 5 MPs in there, who will have nothing to say on the matter and it will be swept under the rug with a further canned statement drawn up by some civil servant in whitehall talking about consumer law just like the statement before.

Most western governments are on the side of industry, and that includes game developers. I cannot imagine they care about this subject and will do the bare minimum lip service to move past it.

I hope I'm wrong.

I do have a bit more hope for the European parliament. Just a little. They do seem to be a bit more pro-consumer. That is the one that matters most IMO.

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 day ago (3 children)

If the EU petition makes it, then it will provide the UK petition support too as part of whatever debate goes on about it.

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[–] inlandempire@jlai.lu 17 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Good job UK ! Now cancel Brexit and vote for the EU one !

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[–] LucasWaffyWaf@lemmy.world 16 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Fell asleep, woke up, suddenly there's only 30k left on the EU initiative.

[–] LorIps@lemmy.world 7 points 11 hours ago (2 children)
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[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 15 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

The Islanders finished there's, but the EU one still has a ways to go!

[–] Aganim@lemmy.world 8 points 14 hours ago

946,944 currently, it's almost there!

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[–] PumaStoleMyBluff@lemmy.world 11 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (9 children)

The EU page started 404ing for me right when it should have hit 1 mil; are we being trolled?

Edit: nvm worked from desktop. Maybe just hug of death.

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[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 9 points 7 hours ago

Keep pushing. There are probably people using VPNs to sign the petition and those will get purged. Either from idiots who don't know better or AAA studios trying to get people to stop now that it's reached the goal. This is true for both the UK and EU petitions.

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