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I’m a momma and I was planning on driving my son down to the beach with some family/friends. I haven’t worn a bikini since my younger days since I’m super busy nowadays as a single mom working 2 jobs. As I was trying on some of my older bikinis, I couldn’t help but wonder how my younger self was confident enough to be this exposed. I’m not insecure about my body or anything, actually I’m pretty confident since I go to the gym often, so genuinely how do other women have the confidence to rock a bikini?

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[–] gigachad@sh.itjust.works 95 points 1 day ago (3 children)

We are on vacation right now and my SO actually wears only the bottom of the bikini and goes bra less to the beach, because she says it's unfair I can free my nipples and she can not. Well that's pretty fair I would say?
We are European though and probably a bit less prude than US Americans.

[–] Opinionhaver@feddit.uk 47 points 1 day ago (1 children)

my SO actually wears only the bottom of the bikini and goes bra less to the beach, because she says it’s unfair I can free my nipples and she can not

Doesn't sound like she can't.

[–] UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world 12 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

Society and shit. I say boobs should be free.

[–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago

If boobs had guns like in Austin Power, our heads would explode trying to figure out if we cared about the 2nd amendment more or being prudes.

[–] liyah27@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Well considering I’m going to be around my son and other family members that’s not really possible lmao.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 42 points 1 day ago

To be fair, if your son cares it's only because you/society taught him to care.

[–] comrade_twisty@feddit.org 28 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Why? Does your son not understand human anatomy or is he afraid of boobs?

We all grew up seeing our moms boobs at some point.

[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 66 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yes comrade, we all grew up seeing your mom's boobs. 🫡

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

Ol' Pancho and Lefty

[–] Zahille7@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

My mom raised us to be comfortable with our bodies, so we wouldn't even have the door closed when we were bathing.

[–] MarieMarion@literature.cafe 22 points 1 day ago

Social conditioning, once again. We're French, and it's totally possible for us.
Yesterday, among strangers, at the local lake, my 42 year old friend was topless, playing with her 7 year old son and her 5 year old (naked) step-daughter. A 36 yo pregnant friend was wearing a string bikini around her husband, 6 yo daughter, and in-laws. It was a non-issue.
Not saying all rules can always be broken, but they're heavily context- and culture-dependant.

[–] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.ca 5 points 17 hours ago

You should reflect back on that "less prude than Americans" part of his statement. It's only "not really possible" because of widespread American taboos about nudity. If boobs were visible in everyday life - on TV shows and at a typical day to the beach - in a non-sexual way, your son wouldn't give a crap.

It's interesting that in many US cities, there's no law against women going topless, but if a woman does it, it's outrageous. Hell, some women get chastised for breastfeeding in public. We're a messed up society.

[–] JASN_DE@feddit.org 71 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Swimming apparel is explicitly made from slightly thicker and very different material, keeping you from looking like you entered a wet-tshirt-contest. That alone is a big subconscious help. Or are you talking about the amount (or rather lack) of clothing?

[–] liyah27@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago

It’s more of the general exposure of my midriff, cleavage, and cheeks. But I’ll probably just say fuck it and rock it anyways lol.

[–] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.ca 4 points 17 hours ago

The counterpoint is that, for many women I know, their swimwear exposes way more skin than their underwear.

[–] Mothra@mander.xyz 59 points 1 day ago (9 children)

People here saying consent (fair enough) but let me tell you, clothes are suggestive. There is more to suggestion and context than the actual content. Is anybody shocked to see a nude statue in a museum or something? Or in a painting? Now how about somebody wearing nothing but a g-string and a harness? You can argue the harnessed person in a gstring is less exposed than any nude. I say no. Clothing adds to the exposure sometimes. Underwear isn't meant to be seen, so when it's seen, it prompts judgement.

[–] Fondots@lemmy.world 33 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I go to a nudist resort fairly frequently. Most of it is clothing optional except for the pools, so you see people walking around in various states of undress depending on the weather and what they're doing (watched a guy weedwacking naked last time I was there, seemed ill-advised IMO)

You pretty quickly stop seeing nudity as being sexy there . It certainly doesn't help that the average nudist is middle aged or older and often not in the best shape.

This resort also attracts a decent amount of swingers. While the nudists aren't particularly trying to impress anyone, that's pretty much the whole reason the swingers are there. So how do you make yourself look sexier than just walking around naked? You wear something. Bathing suits, pasties, big flashy jewelry, crazy hats, see-through dresses, ropes, etc.

And though many of them aren't much more attractive than the nudists, they turn some heads.

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

watched a guy weedwacking naked last time I was there

In case you were wondering, this is a weedwacker

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 18 points 1 day ago

I shall choose to go with my initial interpretation of the term.

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[–] grue@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago

See also: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheissTitillationTheory : "The sexiness of an outfit is directly proportional to the perceived possibility that a vital piece of it might fall off."

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

Exactly. I see a bikini every time I see people swimming. Underwear though, that implies some form of intimacy

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 7 points 21 hours ago

There was an old Piers Anthony series about a society where the masses, mostly slaves, went naked and only the owner class could wear clothes. The more clothes, the sexier.

To summarize your statement, social conditioning

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[–] BeatTakeshi@lemmy.world 46 points 1 day ago (1 children)
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[–] BeatTakeshi@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Obviously consent is the non negotiable standard nowadays (or I wish it were so) but it's true that beaches/swimming pools as a social construct allow for a lessened sense of prudishness in public. Underwears simply do not belong to this construct

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

The difference is one is battle armor.

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[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 45 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

People are right in saying it's context and consent, and it's not completely gendered. Men's swimsuits are basically just boxer shorts. Normally I'm not self-conscious about that, but a few months ago I signed up for a toddler swimming class with my son where I wound up being the only Dad, and suddenly I felt a bit exposed. I think the normalcy of walking around in nothing but a small pair of shorts kinda evaporated once I was the only man in the room.

[–] HenryDorsett@lemmy.world 13 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, and if you get out of the water and have a "flattering" outline in your shorts, its suddenly becomes a much larger issue being the only adult male, and with children around.... eesh.

[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 11 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Well, I wasn't even thinking about that, but now I've got a whole new thing to be self-conscious about.

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social conditioning

[–] Zahille7@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago

I just got done working a comic convention this weekend. You might be pretty surprised by the general lack of clothing most people wear to those things (calling it a "costume").

Just this weekend alone, I saw at least five guys walking around without a shirt, and I don't know how many women wearing things that showed basically everything. Like so tight and thin I could tell what kind and color underwear they were wearing.

And this was in Indianapolis, far from a beach or lake, right in the middle of downtown.

[–] Munkisquisher@lemmy.nz 22 points 1 day ago (2 children)

We have an ad for ice-creams in NZ that covers this topic https://youtu.be/h-Lx2ihpGbc

[–] Elaine@lemmy.world 5 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

Did he call them budgie smugglers?

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[–] markstos@lemmy.world 18 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

The same way that pigs are food and dogs are not. Cognitive dissonance.

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[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 17 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

I can’t speak from a women’s perspective, but wearing swimming trunks in public feels very different than wearing boxer shorts in public.

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[–] DearMoogle@lemmy.today 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Something about feeling like a mom I guess? Idk I don’t have kids! xD For me, rocking a bikini = feeling confident about my body. I used to wear smaller bikinis when I was younger but now I find swim shorts much more comfortable, practical, carefree. Why are us women wearing small tight swim clothes anyway, that you gotta adjust, fuss with the strings, prevent the nip slip, etc. Meanwhile men wear comfy shorts? Well it helps that I’m not at that stage in my life where I’m looking to date or impress anyone lol.

I will say that if I were diligent about going to the gym and had a rockin bod, then yes. I’d probably wear that bikini to show off my hard work😉💪🏼

[–] God_Is_Love@reddthat.com 15 points 22 hours ago

I've never in my life been comfortable with anyone seeing me on a bikini, no matter how good I feel about my body. The "difference" between that and underwear or virtual nudity never permeated my brain 😂

Basically I think it's weird that they're treated so culturally different and don't feel comfortable in them myself, but also support the choice of whatever bathing suits people prefer or nudity in designated areas

[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 14 points 23 hours ago

Do what makes you comfortable.

You'll be out with family and friends, in an environment where most any swimsuit would be expected. Any lack of confidence would come from your own internal comfort, so you do you.

As a more practical suggestion if you're on the fence, wear a wrap? Then you can decide how you feel in the moment.

[–] cRazi_man@europe.pub 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Context and culture and expectations. I agree with your point, but there isn't a logical/sensible answer to these things.

I'm a man and I don't think it would be acceptable for me to wear a Speedo swimsuit or have my bum exposed the way some thong bikini bottoms do. Communities, societies and cultures dictate what's acceptable in an unsaid way. It is what it is.

Some commenters in this thread are reacting in a pointed way because questions like yours seem to imply that there should be a judgement of control of what women can/cannot do. People can do what they want, but it's also OK to think about the absurdity of society's rules......like why some women with a certain body shape can wear bikinis but others get disgusted looks. Or why it is so socially unacceptable to wear the Borat mankini. Or taking it further: why is full nudity so unacceptable and offensive? My answer is: there is no logical answer and this is what the societal collective seem to have agreed.

[–] Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org 14 points 20 hours ago

I can't contribute much except that I've asked myself this question many times. I guess some underwear is see-through but other than that it's kind of the same attire.

[–] blady_blah@lemmy.world 13 points 14 hours ago

IMHO it's really all about you being worried about how others react. Speaking as a 50 year old guy, I would walk around naked if it was normal in society. Put the bikini on and stand in front of a mirror. Make sure you're confident that it looks normal (no tags still showing, nothing that is too revealing or pinching in the wrong spot or whatever... then put it on and go out in public and don't think about it. It'll be fine and nobody will think twice about it other than maybe saying "damn she's keeping herself in shape!"

It'll be fine. Don't let others get in your head so much that it determines what you're going to do or wear.

[–] RBWells@lemmy.world 11 points 17 hours ago

It does feel like going out in underwear, to a place where everyone is in underwear, and the people wearing full clothing look out of place. I don't even have a perfect body but grew up near the beach, saw every possible body type in swimwear. So I am comfortable enough looking near naked in public, since everyone is. It's nice.

[–] Flickerby@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 day ago

Consent. If you see a woman in her swimsuit in public it's because she wants you to. If you see a woman in her underwear in public it's because she wants you to. If you see a woman in either when she DOESN'T want you to then she's likely to have the same reaction. Same as dude's in swim trunks. Public? Fine. Walk in on changing? Likely to be a bit "ahhhh!"

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 23 hours ago

I wouldnt go out with my underwear in the garden.
But going with my bath shorts is totally fair game to my mind.

I would even hesitate dipping into the beach with my underwear even if it was with my mother/father.
It's somehow weird to me. Even if it's totally irrational.

[–] Mubelotix@jlai.lu 7 points 1 day ago

It does tbh

[–] Siegfried@lemmy.world 7 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Ehm, not the same... but I think that how everybody is dressed affects how we perseive our nakedness. Once i went in a trip to Brazil, and felt a little ridicule by how long my swimming shorts were. I ended up buying a swimsuit there... that I can only wear if i ever go back to Brazil.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

You get used to it, especially when nobody cares. Walking into a corner shop in nothing but shorts is pretty Sus in a city in winter, but if it's a hot summer day and the corner shop is near the beach, it's fine.

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[–] illi@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago

I'd say it's the intention.

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