Canada

For a guy who said he wasn't gonna go to war, he sure as fuck sounds like a guy getting ready to go to war.

If you want peace, prepare for war.

I'm not being facetious and I'm not joking, and I don't think he is either.

Here comes the "special military operation", but it's not a declaration of war so he doesn't need congressional approval.

Soooo can we declare Purdue Pharmaceutical and the Sackler family terrorists organization under that rhetoric? Asking for a friendly nation.

In the read out from the PCC meeting on Friday, it says the participating agencies “recognize the need for the United States to take strong action to counter this devastating situation, but these bureaus share significant policy concerns with the Executive Order as drafted.”

Those concerns include the fact that the EO “cites a statute that does not entail an authority to ‘designate’ substances as WMD,” concerns about “negative effects on entities that legitimately handle, ship, and deliver opioids for pharmaceutical purposes,” and acknowledges that “fentanyl can be treated as a chemical weapon when it is developed or used as a weapon…which risks muddying clearly defined roles and responsibilities between the counternarcotics, counterproliferation, and arms control communities.”

Trump has blown by just blurring the lines since he was sworn in. He's wiping them out completely.

I agree that this is just so he has reason to continue his attacks, I am guessing it will be aimed at Mexico but Canada needs to be ready.

This is so he can get wartime and "emergency powers" to stop the midterm elections

He's so far outside the box predictions don't work anymore. But food for thought; Americans associate drugs with Mexico far more than any other country. So this would be one hell of a head whip for the general public. Americans also still consider Canada one of our closest friends on the global stage. Many families in the North span the border. For that fact alone there's a very good chance that if he attacks Canada we'd shut this country down with protests and strikes.

On a rational predictable level he's already declared cartels to be terrorists and Venezuela to be a terrorist state. This is very likely another tool to pressure the Mexican government.

That said, I wouldn't trust us right now. We're like that friend who took too much cocaine and is hiding in the closet with a gun. Unpredictable and dangerous.

Wasn't there a bust of like 1000 lbs of fentanyl crossing the border from the US into Canada recently?

Fentanyl is the preferred opiate in hospitals. Cheaper per dose. US used to be able to "influence" Afghanistan to help its drug trade profits. Fentanyl is cheap because it doesn't need controlled plants in addition to potency.

https://www.npr.org/2020/10/05/918279481/some-health-workers-suffering-from-addiction-steal-drugs-meant-for-patients

Hard to get an exact number for hospital theft amount of fentanyl, but

3,600 cases of alleged drug theft at healthcare facilities over the last five years, including 280 cases so far in 2020.

111,000 instances here where the folks that were reviewing [drug inventories] could not figure out why the math didn't add up,"

What is almost certain is that US healthcare system is a larger source of illegal fentanyl than Canada. If the absurdity that it is a WMD is taken, there should be military security around hospitals before it's placed at the borders.

The death potential of the vial of Anthrax Colin Powell quoted to UN was based on using an eye dropper to kill individuals one by one. WMDs actually require mass deaths from one event as a definition.

Canada needs to immediately stop military cooperation with US. Kick them out of NORAD unless they pay high rent. Stop threatening US enemies, and accepting them as our own.

Serious question, should I get a gun?

Someone call Hans Blix, we gotta find them WMDs in Canada. Funny if they dont find any.

It’s interesting that this 2019 article shows this idea isn’t a new one - https://edition.cnn.com/2019/04/21/politics/dhs-fentanyl-wmd/index.html

The fact that they were considering back then has me wondering if this apparently leaked draft EO might have actual substance to it, which is disturbing to say the least.

About time the USA started treating domestic terrorism appropriately...

...oh

Oh for fuck sakes.

Alright, folks. Time to get on !MapleResistance@lemmy.ca, !Canada@50501.chat, and !resist@fedia.io. !preppers@lemmy.ca could use some love too

It's this that "newspeak" I've been hearing about?

Hmm fenyntal as a weapon wasn't on my list of war crimes to add to the Geneva checklist but we can throw it to the boys to figure out how to make it work and be novel enough to add a section or two to the next version

First as tragedy, then as farce

Not guns?

Those photos of WMDs? They were balls.

Trump right now.

Can we just FFW to the end? Pretty please?

If this goes forward, we have to pay close atention. This certainly is looking for two goals, short and long term. Short is Canada and Mexico. Long term is China