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[–] RobotZap10000@feddit.nl 51 points 2 days ago (4 children)

You'd only get second-hand smoking if you spent every day in your life in the tourist hellhole of central Amsterdam. Try going to Germany instead, everything and everyone reeks of cigarettes and they even have vending machines for them in plain sight in amusement parks.

[–] Milk_Sheikh@lemm.ee 29 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I swear, smokers in Europe have atrocious social graces with no concept of personal space. Even at the busiest and most cramped cafes, they will light up at the table with you or standing next to a doorway, and then act like you’re the problem if you’re annoyed or upset about second hand smoke. Beer gardens and outdoor seating almost universally include a carcinogenic haze, it just ruins the meal/drink imo to be tasting the air between bites

At least in America the social stigma is strong enough where they scurry off to their ~~opium den~~ smoking area and get their nicotine hit with their brethren. Go in peace friend, you do you over there to y’all’s lungs

[–] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sweet summer child, you should have seen Europe at the turn of the century.

I've seen doctors pulling out a cigarette and start smoking in the middle of a ward. Any place you'd go at night - a cafe, a bar, a pub, a disco - and you'd nearly vomit at how your clothes smelled the next day.

Everything and everyone smelled like tobacco.

Nowadays? It's paradise I tell you.

[–] EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The US used to be a lot like this too. Food service workers smoking cigarettes while they carve meat and then throwing the butts in the drain. Smoking sections in restaurants being most of the restaurant while the non-smoking section was a corner of the restaurant where they just sat you between all the smokers like the smoke was gonna hit an invisible barrier. Everybody was smoking all the time. My grandma once served my grandfather his breakfast in an ash tray because she was so sick of him putting out his ciagrettes on the plates.

It wasn't until around the 2000s that things really shifted in the US, and now the thought of a smoking vs non-smoking section of anything other than a little room at the airport where the smokers all squash into to smoke is unheard of.

"My grandma once served my grandfather his breakfast in an ash tray because she was so sick of him putting out his ciagrettes on the plates."

Ha, this is an excellent story

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[–] baguettefish@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

can confirm (germany), it's gotten better but in my childhood there was literally just a cig vending machine outside my block, like 30-40m away from a playground

[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 12 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The US used to have those vending machines in bars and some restaurants too, up until the 90s. The smoking section of restaurants was mostly an invisible line that cut the room in half, so you could have a smoking table literally right next to a non-smoking one.

[–] socsa@piefed.social 6 points 1 day ago

Fun fact, this is how I got about half of my cigarettes in high school. The local dive had the machine by the back entrance which was around the corner from the host stand. You could easily use it without being seen. And on the rare occasion someone did see you and said something all you had to do is tell them to mind their own business and leave because the entire process took about 30s.

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 2 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Go back before smoking sections, and it was the Wild West. Smoking was the default environment. Non-smokers were expected to remove themselves if they were bothered by it.

At the grocery store there would be a line of gumball machines for kids, right alongside a cigarette machine.

My high school had a smoking courtyard, right across from the cafeteria. We called it The Pit. Teachers smoked in the Teachers Lounge. It was famous for having a cloud of smoke pour out whenever the door opened.

I remember being in a doctor's office as a kid, and having the doctor light up during the exam!

In many families, both parents would smoke in the car with the windows rolled up, and kids in the backseat, with no car seats or seat belts.

Nobody asked permission to smoke after a meal, they'd just light up, even if others were still eating. I remember my Dad getting offended when I asked him not to light his pipe at the dinner table while I was still eating.

People smoked at every table in any restaurant.

In offices, people smoked at their desks, until offices started having smoking rooms, and eventually chased them outside. Today I see workplaces where smoking isn't allowed anywhere on the premises.

I worked in record stores starting in 1977, and there was always a standup ashtray at the intersections of aisles, filled with sand. At the end of the night, while the manager was counting the till, one of the clean up jobs was taking a sieve to each ashtray, and sifting out the cigarette butts. Every store I worked in had ashtrays, until I became a store manager, and banned smoking in my stores.

Almost EVERYBODY smoked in the 60s and 70s, except me.

While I am regularly annoyed at smokers in restaurants, at bus stops/train stations and in pedestrian zones, you haven't felt "everything" until you go to e.g. Turkey (as much as I love the country)

[–] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 2 points 22 hours ago

What about second hand fish?

[–] Fiivemacs@lemmy.ca 37 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

And it's damn tasty. herring and raw onions are amazing. That sad pickle slice can screw off though.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I’d try it. Is the skin meant to be eaten after pickling, or does it remove easily?

[–] BorgDrone@feddit.nl 6 points 2 days ago

No need to remove the skin. It’ll just melt in your mouth.

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[–] wetbeardhairs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I take it this is not available in a tin and must be purchased at some street cart vendor?

[–] MoonRaven@feddit.nl 3 points 2 days ago

You usually get it at a fish cart or at a supermarket.

[–] MoonRaven@feddit.nl 3 points 2 days ago

Yeah, I don't understand why there is a freaking slide of pickle.

[–] Aganim@lemmy.world 31 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Well, there goes my appetite, this Dutch guy hates herring. Can't stand the smell, taste or texture. 🤢

[–] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

I'm not sure if I've had herring but I feel the same about pickles.

[–] axEl7fB5@lemmy.cafe 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't think the IQ is intact

As a Dutch child, we shouldn't assume too much about their starting point.

[–] MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Fun fact, if you look up "Dutch cuisine" on Wikipedia, this is literally the second picture (right after Gouda cheese).

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[–] krawutzikaputzi@lemm.ee 2 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

It doesn't show that for me, but now I know of Bamischijf. That sounds good but so weird. Has anybody tried that?

[–] MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 4 points 5 hours ago

The only Dutch food I can vouch for is hagelslag.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What are the little white bits, chopped onions?

[–] CalipherJones@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago

Yes, raw white onion.

[–] ieGod@lemmy.zip 14 points 1 day ago

One of my favorite things about visiting the Netherlands are the herring stalls :D

I prefer mine in a bun, but all forms are delicious.

[–] atlien51@lemm.ee 12 points 2 days ago

This meme is timed really well with me being on holiday in the Netherlands. But it’s also true

[–] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 10 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

So… is that good? It doesn’t look awful, but it also does not look good to me, but I’ll try anything twice 🤷‍♂️

[–] lagoon8622@sh.itjust.works 3 points 22 hours ago

It could be good if it's pickled nicely and seasoned well

[–] LongLive@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

Put 200 on Herring, this matchup isn't even close.

[–] glorkon@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

In Germany, we have pickled herring too, but this German is happy to admit that Hollandse Nieuwe reigns supreme.

[–] Gladaed@feddit.org 7 points 1 day ago

Seems like a waste of onion. At least get it on there!

[–] FuckFascism@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Is that fish even fucking cooked? It sure doesn't look like it.

[–] lime@feddit.nu 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

why would it be cooked? it's pickled!

[–] LumiNocta@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's raw herring. They call it Hollandse Nieuwe and they're literally raw herring without guts and head. They add onions and sometimes a pickle.

But it really is just raw fish and it's quite tasty!

[–] lime@feddit.nu 4 points 1 day ago

mate, i'm swedish. you don't have to convince me that it's tasty!

[–] Gladaed@feddit.org 4 points 1 day ago (3 children)

It is cooked. In the sense that it is not raw. There are other ways then boiling to produce safe, accessible calories.

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[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] pulsewidth@lemmy.world 24 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Its pickled, not raw. Scandinavians have been pickling fish for a very long time and it's worked out OK so far.

[–] Hoimo@ani.social 4 points 1 day ago

It's been working out a lot better since the invention of flash freezing. For both sushi and pickled fish, the risk of parasites was always present. Now it's just as safe as cooked fish and it doesn't taste any different from raw.

[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (3 children)

But no baking, frying, or cooking of any kind?

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

No of course not, you have to pick just one of the options for your people's cusine

[–] ZoopZeZoop@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

I'm American. We choose microwaving.

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (3 children)

It’s no different than sushi. The Dutch have lekkerbekje if you want to eat fried fish.

[–] FellowEnt@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)
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[–] Donkter@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Y'all ever heard of sushi? Pickled is overkill.

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