You'd only get second-hand smoking if you spent every day in your life in the tourist hellhole of central Amsterdam. Try going to Germany instead, everything and everyone reeks of cigarettes and they even have vending machines for them in plain sight in amusement parks.
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I swear, smokers in Europe have atrocious social graces with no concept of personal space. Even at the busiest and most cramped cafes, they will light up at the table with you or standing next to a doorway, and then act like you’re the problem if you’re annoyed or upset about second hand smoke. Beer gardens and outdoor seating almost universally include a carcinogenic haze, it just ruins the meal/drink imo to be tasting the air between bites
At least in America the social stigma is strong enough where they scurry off to their ~~opium den~~ smoking area and get their nicotine hit with their brethren. Go in peace friend, you do you over there to y’all’s lungs
Sweet summer child, you should have seen Europe at the turn of the century.
I've seen doctors pulling out a cigarette and start smoking in the middle of a ward. Any place you'd go at night - a cafe, a bar, a pub, a disco - and you'd nearly vomit at how your clothes smelled the next day.
Everything and everyone smelled like tobacco.
Nowadays? It's paradise I tell you.
The US used to be a lot like this too. Food service workers smoking cigarettes while they carve meat and then throwing the butts in the drain. Smoking sections in restaurants being most of the restaurant while the non-smoking section was a corner of the restaurant where they just sat you between all the smokers like the smoke was gonna hit an invisible barrier. Everybody was smoking all the time. My grandma once served my grandfather his breakfast in an ash tray because she was so sick of him putting out his ciagrettes on the plates.
It wasn't until around the 2000s that things really shifted in the US, and now the thought of a smoking vs non-smoking section of anything other than a little room at the airport where the smokers all squash into to smoke is unheard of.
"My grandma once served my grandfather his breakfast in an ash tray because she was so sick of him putting out his ciagrettes on the plates."
Ha, this is an excellent story
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can confirm (germany), it's gotten better but in my childhood there was literally just a cig vending machine outside my block, like 30-40m away from a playground
The US used to have those vending machines in bars and some restaurants too, up until the 90s. The smoking section of restaurants was mostly an invisible line that cut the room in half, so you could have a smoking table literally right next to a non-smoking one.
Fun fact, this is how I got about half of my cigarettes in high school. The local dive had the machine by the back entrance which was around the corner from the host stand. You could easily use it without being seen. And on the rare occasion someone did see you and said something all you had to do is tell them to mind their own business and leave because the entire process took about 30s.
While I am regularly annoyed at smokers in restaurants, at bus stops/train stations and in pedestrian zones, you haven't felt "everything" until you go to e.g. Turkey (as much as I love the country)
What about second hand fish?
And it's damn tasty. herring and raw onions are amazing. That sad pickle slice can screw off though.
I’d try it. Is the skin meant to be eaten after pickling, or does it remove easily?
No need to remove the skin. It’ll just melt in your mouth.
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I take it this is not available in a tin and must be purchased at some street cart vendor?
You usually get it at a fish cart or at a supermarket.
Yeah, I don't understand why there is a freaking slide of pickle.
Well, there goes my appetite, this Dutch guy hates herring. Can't stand the smell, taste or texture. 🤢
I'm not sure if I've had herring but I feel the same about pickles.
I don't think the IQ is intact
As a Dutch child, we shouldn't assume too much about their starting point.
What are the little white bits, chopped onions?
Yes, raw white onion.
Fun fact, if you look up "Dutch cuisine" on Wikipedia, this is literally the second picture (right after Gouda cheese).
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One of my favorite things about visiting the Netherlands are the herring stalls :D
I prefer mine in a bun, but all forms are delicious.
This meme is timed really well with me being on holiday in the Netherlands. But it’s also true
Put 200 on Herring, this matchup isn't even close.
So… is that good? It doesn’t look awful, but it also does not look good to me, but I’ll try anything twice 🤷♂️
It could be good if it's pickled nicely and seasoned well
In Germany, we have pickled herring too, but this German is happy to admit that Hollandse Nieuwe reigns supreme.
Is that fish even fucking cooked? It sure doesn't look like it.
why would it be cooked? it's pickled!
It's raw herring. They call it Hollandse Nieuwe and they're literally raw herring without guts and head. They add onions and sometimes a pickle.
But it really is just raw fish and it's quite tasty!
mate, i'm swedish. you don't have to convince me that it's tasty!
It is cooked. In the sense that it is not raw. There are other ways then boiling to produce safe, accessible calories.
It looks raw to me...
It is soaked in salty and/or acidic fluid to denature (cook) some proteins.
Ok thanks
Seems like a waste of onion. At least get it on there!
Why is that fish raw😶
Its pickled, not raw. Scandinavians have been pickling fish for a very long time and it's worked out OK so far.
It's been working out a lot better since the invention of flash freezing. For both sushi and pickled fish, the risk of parasites was always present. Now it's just as safe as cooked fish and it doesn't taste any different from raw.
But no baking, frying, or cooking of any kind?
No of course not, you have to pick just one of the options for your people's cusine
I'm American. We choose microwaving.
It’s no different than sushi. The Dutch have lekkerbekje if you want to eat fried fish.
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Y'all ever heard of sushi? Pickled is overkill.
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