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Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, a New York Democrat, ripped Donald Trump for his military attack against Iran on Saturday, saying the move is "absolutely and clearly grounds for impeachment."

Ocasio-Cortez ripped the president's action on X, formerly Twitter, and wrote, "The President's disastrous decision to bomb Iran without authorization is a grave violation of the Constitution and Congressional War Powers. He has impulsively risked launching a war that may ensnare us for generations. It is absolutely and clearly grounds for impeachment."

On the other hand, Senator John Fetterman, a Pennsylvania Democrat, came to Trump's side and wrote on X, "As I've long maintained, this was the correct move by @POTUS. Iran is the world's leading sponsor of terrorism and cannot have nuclear capabilities. I'm grateful for and salute the finest military in the world."

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[–] GuyFawkes@midwest.social 197 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Fuck Fetterman that piece of shit.

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 83 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Gotta be a some kind of link between brain damage and rabid conservatism.

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 39 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There is. You gotta be brain damaged to be conservative.

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 week ago

Naw, you can also just be rich and an asshole. Brain damage is easier to get though

[–] Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Boomers and Gen X suffer permanent brain damage due to lead poisoning that directly correlates to their radicalized views.

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[–] msprout@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I hope he gets out of politics and gets treatment. I grew up in Pittsburgh and just wince every time I see what he has become. He used to come out to parties in my social group! He was always a spoiled rich kid but this post-stroke John is something else.

[–] errer@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Nah fuck his treatment, just get him the fuck out of office. He’s way beyond the point where I care about his personal well-being anymore.

[–] msprout@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I'm saying this because John was at one time a friend to me. Genuinely I don't expect you to care about his well-being. I figured that the point of my comment was that he needs to step down immediately; I think people seem to think I'm asking you for sympathy.

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[–] pixxelkick@lemmy.world 108 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If literally anyone thinks "it's okay that Trump bombed Iran, it was the right move"...

Then couldnt you just argue that "if it was such an obviously right move, wouldn't it have been easy to get congress to approve it?"

It's illogical to on one hand say it was the right thing to do, while ignoring the fact he did it without approval.

If it was so right, then approval would've been easy to get...?

[–] LadyButterfly@lemmy.world 33 points 1 week ago

Trump fans would say he couldn't ask because they'd unfairly block him. And he's a decisive dynamic man who took initiative. Or something

[–] PunkRockSportsFan@fanaticus.social 91 points 1 week ago (10 children)

Mussolini got dragged through the streets and him and his gf’s lifeless corpses were hung upside down for all of Rome to see.

Weird fact. Not sure why I’m thinking of it

[–] Jiggle_Physics@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 week ago

There is an old quote -

"The plight of the oppressed ends with the oppressor. Mussolini found this to be true, as will others."

[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] PunkRockSportsFan@fanaticus.social 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Now THAT’s a PRIME NUMBER

Thank you for your attention to this matter

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[–] J92@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It was Milan. Though I'm sure the people of Rome were more than welcome to go see his bespatted husk.

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[–] flandish@lemmy.world 66 points 1 week ago (4 children)

he’s been impeached. what’s another one gonna do except distract everyone while he continues to war?

[–] Sc00ter@lemmy.zip 65 points 1 week ago (2 children)

If the senate actually has balls, they can remove him from office. Impeachment doesnt inherently carry consequences. The senate determines consequence

The first two times were like a jury declaring a person guilty, and then the judge came in for sentences and said, "eh but did he really do it? I sentence you to... no punishment."

[–] msprout@lemmy.world 33 points 1 week ago (9 children)

The older I get, the more I feel like the Senate is essentially the means through which corporations and the capital class defeat any popular movement. Our Constitution was written mostly by drunk, privileged, rich kids. I think sometimes you can really smell the disdain for lower classes in the way everything is built.

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[–] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago

The first two times were like a jury declaring a person guilty, and then the judge came in for sentences and said, “eh but did he really do it? I sentence you to… no punishment.”

Not quite. The first two times were like a grand jury returning an indictment. That's the House's part of the equation. They have a vote requiring 50% of members to vote to impeach the president, effectively indicting him. The Senate then has to hold a trial that which takes a 67% vote to convict him and remove him from office.

Saying he has been impeached twice but not removed from office is the equivalent of saying someone has been indicted twice but not convicted. He hasn't yet been convicted.

[–] xinit@lemmy.coffee 9 points 1 week ago

With three, stamps, you get a free impeachment.

[–] msprout@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

Well it's not like Congress is busy approving or funding a war. They've got time.

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[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 60 points 1 week ago (2 children)

clearly grounds for impeachment

...add it to the pile, I guess.

But considering that impeachment is a legal process and that the current administration has zero respect for or inclination to follow the law, it's not like it'll accomplish shit. Dude needs to be deposed by those who have sworn to defend the constitution from domestic threats (the military) not run through some formal process.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Impeachment is specifically NOT a legal process but a political one. Trump's second impeachment acquittal was based on impeachment being a political process, and that the criminal justice system was the correct venue for J6.

That's also why the Justice department policy on not charging a sitting president and the SCOTUS ruling that Presidents are immune from prosecution are bullshit.

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[–] Tilgare@lemmy.world 46 points 1 week ago

Only a rag would quote Fetterman and credit him as a Democrat. He doesn't act or believe what he did when he was elected as a Democrat, his perspective is irrelevant.

[–] StonerCowboy@lemm.ee 37 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Keep screaming impeachment when clearly that doesn't work.....he belongs in jail ya know for being a 34 count felon rapist seditionous traitor.

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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I want him actually removed from office. He was already impeached. Twice! It didn't do anything.

[–] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

To get him removed from office, you have to first get the House to vote (50%) to Impeach him. That is actually doable. But then the Senate has to hold a trial and somehow get 67 senators to vote to convict him. That would take every Dem and Independent and something like 20 Republicans to vote to convict. I agree with you, but I don't see that happening.

The only other way is by using the 25th Amendment which says, in part:

Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.

Vance and all of Trump's appointed toadies would have to send a letter to the House and Senate saying Trump in not capable of being president. And even if, by some miracle that happened, the next step is for Congress to hold votes in both the House and the Senate needing two-thirds of both houses to declare that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office. Even if they somehow pulled that off in the House, it would still take 18 or 20 Republican senators to cross over and vote him out.

I just don't see any legislative way out of this. The Republicans in the House and Senate are simply not going to let it happen. They have too much power and no morals.

[–] Pacattack57@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Doesn’t matter they should still introduce the bill

[–] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

I don't disagree. If nothing else, it forces Republicans in the House and maybe even the Senate to go on record supporting Trump's crimes, so that maybe in the midterms we can take away their domination in Congress, but it is not the real solution. This administration is the GOP's recurring wet dream for the last 40 years. They will do anything to keep Trump in office.

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago

Every day the Criminal in Chief commits impeachable crimes. Every. Day.

This is just the latest. But Congress is currently packed with illegitimate, undemocratically placed criminal cronies who face no accountability while shielding their criminal collaborators from accountability. So here we are.

[–] kamikazerusher@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I don’t disagree that bombing Iran puts us at risk of starting a war we don’t want to be involved in. However I think the public is too split on the matter to put majority support behind impeachment.

Conservative circles themselves appear divided with some saying the display of force was necessary and avoided direct conflict (minimizing operational costs), some saying the President is authorized to conduct these actions under the War Powers Resolution of 1973, and some voicing dissent or disapproval altogether of this action.

The War Powers Resolution will probably be the loophole that conservative outlets use to claim that Trump has done nothing wrong. I don’t know if there’s been an exercise of this authority without congressional approval that has lead to the targeted country declaring war as a result. If this were to happen, maybe there will be clear grounds to impeach, but I don’t think the public will display a majority support for it to happen.

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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Like Obama's action against Libya? 🤔

Look, I don't like Trump either, but this is the same bullshit threat Republicans dropped when Obama was President.

[–] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 34 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Agreed. Except Netanyahu, a genocidal prick pulling the puppet strings of the White House for years, didn't goad Obama into that. Obama made that terrible decision alone.

Trump is a manbaby who's easily manipulated.

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[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Wasn't right then, and isn't right now/

[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 week ago (4 children)

If Congress wants the power to declare war back they need to repeal the war powers act.

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[–] mfed1122@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Cool. So since she's a member of the house of representatives, she must have initiated proceedings for impeachment, right?

Edit: I am happy to see that she did (or rather joined in with Al's), and it served a useful purpose of highlighting what posers the rest of the Dems are with their resounding votes against.

[–] burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (4 children)

its not a good idea to introduce something in Congress if you dont have support

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[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 week ago (4 children)

One of like 1000 things he's done in the last few months that was either illegal, unconstitutional, "grounds for impeachment", or corrupt. 🥱

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[–] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 week ago

What are they gonna do about it? Lawsuit? Lmao

[–] Suavevillain@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Kendrick Lamar "It's not enough." I want him removed and charged for all the harm and civil rights violations and war crimes. No President has ever been held accountable, So you can start with him.

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