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[–] wanderwisley@lemm.ee 135 points 3 days ago (3 children)

American democracy didn’t survive the first month of this year.

[–] dinren@discuss.online 33 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I’d argue it died in November ‘24

[–] knightly@pawb.social 22 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)
[–] dinren@discuss.online 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Shit, it’s basically all Reagan’s fault if we wanna get down to it.

Well, that, and Nixon, and Milton Friedman. But yeah.

[–] wanderwisley@lemm.ee 7 points 3 days ago
[–] asg101@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 days ago

It died March 4, 1789

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 28 points 2 days ago

It's the political version of 'Weekend at Bernie's' .... America killed democracy a long time ago and they've been parading around the dead body for years pretending that everything is OK.

As the years go by it's getting harder and harder to get people to ignore the rotting stinking corpse they keep dressing up in American flags and uniforms.

[–] asg101@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

American democracy didn't survive the constitution that only allowed rich white males any voice.

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[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 82 points 3 days ago

Who says it survived the last war in the middle east?

American democracy is an oxymoron

[–] devolution@lemmy.world 64 points 3 days ago (2 children)

It died on November 5th, 2024. We are just in the embers.

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 38 points 3 days ago (1 children)

To be fair it had been on life support for decades.

[–] Laser@feddit.org 10 points 2 days ago

Yeah this is the thing. Trump isn't where things went south, but he sure accelerated it. In a working democracy, he would have been laughed out of the room. But decades of neocon politics have deteriorated the American society so much in so many aspects that he got elected

[–] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 17 points 3 days ago (22 children)
[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 27 points 3 days ago (6 children)

'You mean my inaction at a time when I could have stopped the end of democracy actually ended democracy? Must be bidens fault somehow!' - dumbass American voters

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[–] ramble81@lemmy.zip 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Which is unfortunately quite poetic. Refusing to vote has ensured they will no longer be able to vote.

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

You mean not fixing the system won't fix the system? What am I missing here...? /s

Referring to the guy you're replying to, if it isn't clear.

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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 51 points 3 days ago

Starting from the premise we have a democracy at this point is flawed.

[–] Anomalocaris@lemm.ee 40 points 3 days ago

what democracy?

[–] SnarkoPolo@lemmy.world 37 points 2 days ago

American democracy has not survived.

FIFY

[–] Kickforce@lemmy.wtf 31 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Best outcome would be if Iran and the US took out each other's government, but they always seem weirdly unwilling to go after the leadership if they have an option to kill soldiers and civilians instead, even when it's clearly the leaders who pose a problem.

[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 days ago

Have we tried arming insurgents and having them overthrow the Government? Or possibly just a little coup?

Oh. Ok nvm.

[–] Ironfist79@lemmy.world 30 points 3 days ago

We don't need to imagine. He's doing it right now.

[–] asg101@lemmy.blahaj.zone 27 points 2 days ago

America has ALWAYS been an oligarchy masquerading as a democracy. The mask is dropping further down every day.

[–] PenguinMage@lemmy.world 23 points 3 days ago

... we have democracy?

[–] Scott_of_the_Arctic@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago

American democracy won't survive the next flu season. It's pretty fucking fragile.

[–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 16 points 3 days ago (1 children)

American democracy was cooked in 2004 and it’s wild that anyone would pretend otherwise.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 57 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

In 2000. Al Gore won that election, but Republicans cheated.

[–] DandomRude@lemmy.world 34 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Not so fun fact: Even back then, a certain Clarence Thomas was involved in the Supreme Court decision that prevented a recount of votes in Florida (source), which would likely have resulted in Al Gore's election victory. And: Also even back then, this Supreme Justice was associated with a certain billionaire named Harlan Crow who supported him with various favors - he continues to do so to this day.

[–] KeenFlame@feddit.nu 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Interesting but the source don't say he would have won what I can see. Was that later established?

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[–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 27 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I mean, that was the shot across the bow, but there was a democratic way forward. When democrats completely folded and then he was reeelected 4 years later after making every wrong decision?

There hasn’t been a nonviolent way out of the US’s far-right problem in 20 years.

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[–] the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago

American Democracy is already dead, those stupid red hat fucks helped murder it.

[–] UncleGrandPa@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

We no longer Have a functioning democracy

[–] freeman@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 days ago

Ah the "The invade your country and then make a movie about how it caused them PTSD" analog.

Surviving implies not yet being dead...

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 days ago

The other option is that they might survive, I guess. When did pure conjecture replace facts?

[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 5 points 2 days ago

It's ok. It wasn't going to survive a Trump presidency anyway.

[–] Onyxonblack@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 days ago

Ha!! My sides...

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