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[–] HenchmanNumber3@lemm.ee 200 points 4 days ago (2 children)

"NOW IS THE TIME FOR PEACE," posts the man who just led us into war.

[–] huppakee@feddit.nl 61 points 4 days ago

Ikr, it's like puncing someone in the face and then telling that person now is the moment to stop fighting lol

[–] voodooattack@lemmy.world 19 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

I read a post that said he couldn’t go to war without a vote from congress, was that wrong?

Edit: I’m not a US citizen so I’m not sure

[–] 2piradians@lemmy.world 51 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The constitution gives Congress the exclusive power to formally declare war.

That said, Congress hasn't declared war since 1942, yet we've obviously taken part in many wars since then.

Sadly there just hasn't been enough Congressional support to retaliate against a president for jumping to military action without authorization. And it doesn't help that the average American doesn't know that the president is not allowed to just deploy troops at will (in most cases, Iran included).

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago

If the president can do it without consequences, then he is allowed. Turns out words on paper mean nothing.

[–] LogicalDrivel@sopuli.xyz 18 points 4 days ago

Legally speaking that's correct. There was nothing legal about this, though.

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[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 102 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Iran is going to close the Straight of Hormuz.

There goes the worlds economy.

25% of the worlds oil runs through there.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 55 points 4 days ago (4 children)

And then the Trump will invade Iran to open it citing it must remain open.

[–] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 24 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Shhhh! That's supposed to be a secret plan!

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[–] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 17 points 4 days ago (1 children)

They may try.

There would be more than just the US and Israel bombing them if that happened, you just don't fuck with international trade.

[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 32 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Well, yeah. It wouldn't be WW3 without more dance partners.

[–] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 9 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Who's going to back up Iran though? Maybe the houthis, but they barely count.

[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 24 points 4 days ago (5 children)

Russia and China both have defense treaties with Iran.

[–] Carmakazi@lemmy.world 16 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Russia probably isn't much of a concern right now.

China...we wouldn't overextend a conflict to the point where China gets involved, right? ...Not again? ...For the third time?

[–] voodooattack@lemmy.world 15 points 4 days ago

Except it won’t even be a proxy war since the US just struck directly

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[–] plyth@feddit.org 8 points 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Much of it is from Iran and destined for China. They won't stop those exports.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 59 points 4 days ago (34 children)

This is what you voted for protest-non-voters.

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They're all patting themselves on the back right now claiming Harris would have done the same thing.

[–] Zenith@lemm.ee 8 points 3 days ago

That’s literally an upvoted comment here with the person “guaranteeing” it would be exactly the same

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[–] AmidFuror@fedia.io 56 points 4 days ago

That'll teach the Democrats for not embracing socialism.

[–] Xaphanos@lemmy.world 47 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Now, when a terrorist attack occurs, he's fully justified in declaring martial law.

It's as good as over, folks. Checkmate.

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago

he doesn't even need that. he already does whatever he wants legal or not

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 46 points 3 days ago (6 children)

without congressional approval

[–] Glytch@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Congress decided quite a while ago that presidents are allowed to have a little war, as a treat, and only seek approval for it later. It's been this way at least since the '90s and likely before.

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[–] wanderwisley@lemm.ee 41 points 3 days ago

*Bombs a peaceful country. “Now is the time for peace.” 🫲🍊🫱

[–] Hikuro93@lemmy.world 30 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Closeted men of war preaching about peace. Closeted gays fighting against gay rights. Judgemental/greedy/racist religious people putting themselves on a pedestal about how you should "take care of thy neighbor".

It's always the ones who preach the most, the same ones doing the exact opposite of what they preach. Always the ones bitching about the bad in the world actively hard at work making the world a shittier place.

Seriously, if Trump says the sky is blue I'll immediately look up just to check if it hasn't turned red/green/pink/whatever.

Be always wary of the ones telling you how to live, and watch out for their actions closely. There's no hate like the 'love' of these hypocrites.

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[–] nimble@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 4 days ago

I can't even with this shit

[–] CPMSP@midwest.social 14 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You know, the first two were enough for the world.

I guess we've lived long enough to see ourselves become the villain.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 12 points 4 days ago

I guess we've lived long enough to see ourselves become the villain.

Always have been.

[–] iamjackflack@lemm.ee 13 points 4 days ago

Remove Trump now!

[–] KMAMURI@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

This fucking dickhead drumphkins. Could someone please....

[–] Noite_Etion@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Can someone help me out here. How do they know that these sites are being used for nuclear weapons production specifically?

Iran does have a nuclear power plant and they do enrich their own uranium. Not trying to justify these bombings, I'm just curious on how they determined these sites are specifically for weapon manufacturing.

[–] AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@sh.itjust.works 35 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Remember when Iraq had weapons of mass destruction?

Same thing.

[–] Noite_Etion@lemmy.world 15 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

So total bullshit with zero evidence, cool. Just felt I was missing something as they kept calling them nuclear sites without specifying what they believed the sites were being used for.

Thanks for confirming

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[–] Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 11 points 4 days ago (3 children)
[–] huppakee@feddit.nl 43 points 4 days ago

Officially we'll only be able to call that afterwards, during the cold war ww3 also almost begun. We should still try stop and prevent it, no matter how difficult it to argue it hasn't begun yet.

[–] torrentialgrain@lemm.ee 11 points 3 days ago

Not defending any of this but these WW3 comments are so weird. The US has been in so many wars in the Middle East, why would this specific one turn into a world war? Especially since there will not be boots on the ground (you never know with trump but I think that’s genuinely the last thing he wants to do).

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[–] bender223@lemmy.today 10 points 3 days ago

Netanyahu must have some really good kompromat on trump thru Epstein.

[–] napkin2020@sh.itjust.works 9 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (6 children)

Well at least Genocide Joe didn't become the president.

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[–] justmember88@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

Wow, things just took a wild turn in the board game! Whether you’re on board with it or not, this is a game changer: it’s going to impact everything from oil and alliances to elections and the streets. Just wait and see the ripple effects unfold over the next 48 hours!

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