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[–] BigTrout75@lemmy.world 217 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Isn't Windows 10 suppose to be the last Windows release? We changed our minds.

[–] Yoga@lemmy.ca 178 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Correction: it's MY last Windows release. I invite it to be yours too.

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[–] Darkmoon_UK@lemm.ee 144 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (14 children)

Weird hill to die on perhaps; but I'll never forgive Microsoft for arbitrarily deciding to not support my Core i7 6700K 4Ghz CPU on Windows 11.

Simply because: I cannot find a single actual technical reason why it wouldn't be compatible (yes, my mobo also has TPM). It's even higher specced than many other 'supported' chips.

MS apparently just decided I hadn't spent enough money lately. Well now I won't - on your products - ever again, while this i7 will continue to run Win 10 for games and Linux for all else.

[–] Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone 56 points 2 days ago (17 children)

Gaming is great on Linux nowadays btw. I installed Fedora a few weeks ago and haven't had a single problem with any of my games - I'm getting better framerates, too.

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[–] dingus@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago

I'm in a similar boat. My computer meets all of the other requirements like TPM and whatnot, yet they are arbitrarily deciding that my processor is too old. And for some reason you can walk into your local computer store and buy a laptop with the shittiest processor and other specs possible that somehow runs Windows 11. Just because the processor on the new shitbox was manufactured more recently. Ridiculous.

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[–] hellfire103@lemmy.ca 118 points 2 days ago (14 children)
[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago (8 children)

I'm trying but the girlfriend refuses. She watches YouTube on the TV and does everything else on her phone; literally only uses the laptop to play The Sims 4 (which her 1080ti can handle just fine), yet she's convinced that she will need a brand new gaming machine with a 4090/5090 as soon as Microsoft dumps WIn10. She's afraid that she'll completely break the OS if she switches to Linux. (Which is plausible, though unlikely.

I'm hoping she'll change her mind as soon as she realizes just how much more GPUs cost these days, especially mobile ones.

[–] vii@programming.dev 23 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Create a live USB stick and demonstrate it to her, without deleting Windows. Bonus points if you rice the fuck out of it with some kawaii shit for your GF and make Sims 4 work with Wine.

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[–] Yoga@lemmy.ca 99 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I mean, what do you expect them to say?

"Time to install Linux, here's how you chose a kernel:"

[–] Dirk@lemmy.ml 52 points 2 days ago (5 children)
[–] Yoga@lemmy.ca 27 points 2 days ago (9 children)

If I was responsible I'd learn about that stuff now but that sounds like an October 13 problem tbh

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[–] ch00f@lemmy.world 96 points 2 days ago (5 children)

"Trade it"

TO FUCKING WHOM? The whole point is that you made it useless.

(Unless this is Microsoft providing some free advertising for Linux)

[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 40 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Probably going to be a ton of cheap used computers on the market in the near future for installing Linux on

[–] spacesatan@leminal.space 21 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Every now and then a little devil on my shoulder says "you should set up a cluster computer that serves a secondary function as a smart space heater" and it's gonna be really hard to ignore if the deals are good enough.

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[–] Kualdir@feddit.nl 76 points 2 days ago (73 children)

Time to encourage people to switch to Linux instead

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[–] ItsJannnneee@lemmy.blahaj.zone 65 points 1 day ago (3 children)

That moment when Microsoft tells people to throw away perfectly good working computers because they're running Windows 10. When Windows 10 was just coming out or had just come out, Microsoft promised that Windows 10 would be the last OS of theirs, and there would only be updates. Also Microsoft is constantly sending messages to people running Windows 10 urging them to update.

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[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 53 points 1 day ago (9 children)

Hold on to your butts.

Big influx of Linux-compatible office PCs hitting eBay soon.

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[–] Tenograd@feddit.org 51 points 1 day ago (7 children)

This is the biggest garbage a tech company did to almost 256 million PCs in use and fully working. I installed Linux Mint on all three PCs I own. Free and works far better than I thought.

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[–] ManaOatbun@jlai.lu 47 points 2 days ago

I took the last message I got from them as an invitation to ditch Windows for Linux. Now I wish I did that earlier!

[–] meowMix2525@lemm.ee 45 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The OneDrive plug at the end is *chefs kiss*

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[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 45 points 2 days ago (6 children)

“But don’t learn about Windows 10 LTSC IoT!”

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[–] Polderviking@feddit.nl 41 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (7 children)

I love how in a world where we banned straws we are somehow OK with Microsoft pushing people to recycle their old but otherwise adequate system for what, to the vast majority of people, are some paper thin security advantages.

Anybody who asks me about Windows 10's EOL date will be introduced to the option of using Linux before i'll help them select a replacement system. Especially if they literally only use a browser there really is no reason to go through hoops or spend money to stick with Windows.

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[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 40 points 1 day ago (6 children)

end of support for windows 10

beginning of support for linux mint

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[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 39 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Trade it in or recycle it with local organizations

And what are those organizations expected to install on systems that can't support Windows 11, Microsoft? What are they expected to install exactly?

[–] addiks@feddit.org 26 points 1 day ago
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[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 37 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Windows 11 is the most secure Windows ever built

They've been saying that about every single one since that notoriously insecure one. ME, I think?

Also, I'm pretty sure that Tiny11 or the like is more secure if you consider data privacy important, since a lot of the privacy issues of Windows 11 are coming from the unnecessary parts of Windows itself..

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[–] sanguinepar@lemmy.world 33 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (27 children)

Ugh. I'm going to have to seriously look at Linux, aren't I?

Absolutely no idea where to start with that, nor whether any of the software I need for work (or indeed anything else) is compatible, not how I'm going to find the time to learn all this.

Bleugh 😔

EDIT - Just want to say thanks to everyone for all the helpful tips and advice below. Will make it my mission this summer to at least understand Linux better and work out if it's for me. Cheers, you lovely people 👍

[–] 0x0@programming.dev 33 points 2 days ago (14 children)

Linux Mint is one of the most recommended for newbies.
You can use a live CD/USB to try it out without installing.

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[–] tal@lemmy.today 33 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Windows 11 is the most secure Windows ever built, with comprehensive end-to-end security

Does "end-to-end security" actually mean anything in this context, or is it just intended to evoke "end-to-end encryption"?

[–] joshcodes@programming.dev 42 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That entire sentence is unintelligible marketing drivel.

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[–] Xavius@lemm.ee 31 points 1 day ago

Goodbye Windows, Hello Linux

[–] Mwa@lemm.ee 29 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

this is literally E-waste
Reminds me what Spotify did with the Spotify car thing

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[–] DioEgizio@lemm.ee 28 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They're not even ashamed of intentionally creating e-waste for people that don't know that Linux exists

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[–] Opinionhaver@feddit.uk 27 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

What a coincidence - I stopped supporting it too!

[–] Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Before you recycle your Windows 10 PC (or just switch to Linux and avoid wasting resources), keep in mind while Windows 10 22H2 is ending in 7 months, 21H2 LTSC Enterprise is still good for 1 year 10 months:

https://endoflife.date/windows

To download the 21H2 LTSC, go here:

https://archive.org/details/en-us_windows_10_enterprise_ltsc_2021_x64_202301

Then generate a free license key using the Ohook or KMS38 methods via PowerShell as explained here:

https://massgrave.dev/

Disclaimer: I haven't tried this myself so there may be some bugs/issues along the way. For my next laptop, I'm thinking about switching to Linux and specifically Ubuntu or Fedora, so this won't really impact me

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[–] tengkuizdihar@programming.dev 26 points 1 day ago

Holy shit they really just said, "throw it away". Troglodytes!

[–] rmuk@feddit.uk 25 points 1 day ago

"Trade it in or recycle it" basically means "your best bet to solve this problem is to pass it on to someone else, who will pass it on to someone else, and so on until it arrives at landfill".

[–] fossilesque@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 1 day ago

This is incredibly infuriating and I'd honestly consider it ecoterrorism and abusive.

[–] anon@reddthat.com 23 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Anything but the penguin😂

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[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 23 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Windows 10 LTSC is supported until 2032, and is free to pirate.

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[–] ulterno@programming.dev 23 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Throw it away.

Gently

In my direction

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[–] GrumpyDuckling@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 day ago (6 children)

I said from the beginning that the tpm 2.0 requirement was a way to make people buy new pc's. Good news for me who wants a laptop upgrade.

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[–] untorquer@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

They act like the computer's just going to stop working or something... People are going to use win 10 out of support for years.

E: specifically note, please, that i said "act". I'm aware they state it will keep working in the little FAQ.

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[–] zer0bitz@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Im so glad I fully switched to Linux a year ago. Never going back to Windows.

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