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[–] GoobyMcMooby@lemmy.zip 193 points 1 week ago (10 children)

Why are all these fucking weirdos like he, Epstein, Musk obsessed with having the most progeny? Fucking malignant narcissists.

[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 106 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's natalism and it's a wierd and (you nailed it) narcissistic ideology.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 37 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

There's also a strong white supremacist aspect to natalism. It's a form of racial eugenics.

[–] Nomad@infosec.pub 42 points 1 week ago

Its called white supremacy. They want more white babies to be born.

[–] Doubleohdonut@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Is it possibly an extension of their "line goes up" mentality? Or is there a possibility they're moving towards something more nefarious? 100 kids seems like a lot to try and manage if you're actually acknowleging them as progeny and distributing your wealth among them.

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[–] neuromorph@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

Ghengis Khan

[–] Thorry84@feddit.nl 10 points 1 week ago

They believe in eugenics, they are the worst of the worst.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

They literally think they are part of a Master Race and that their magic jizz will create a future line of ubermensch.

It's esoteric fascism.

Not the distribution of the wealth to the mass we want.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago

It begs questions that have only bad answers.

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[–] vodka@feddit.org 101 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Did people read the article? He's been doing sperm donation for 15+ years, and wants to leave his inheritance to also be split with the kids that have come from sperm donation. Isn't this a good thing?

It's not like he's personally impregnated women for 100+ children. Which it seems to be what the comments here are reacting to?

Not saying this billionaire is a saint or anything, but it really doesn't look like people here are reading past the headline...

[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 50 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Why not just tax the money lmao

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 40 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Because we live in corporate dictatorships so wealth redistribution is the devil.

[–] vodka@feddit.org 1 points 1 week ago

Hey I'm not saying we shouldn't have inheritance tax.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

That's not the issue though I think most people think it's gross because it was specifically done to get as many progeny as possible. I'm not arguing he's a racist or bigot but the quiver full mentality is specifically racist.

[–] Wanderer@lemm.ee 5 points 1 week ago

It's not like he's personally impregnated women for 100+ children.

Would have been a legend if he did though.

[–] SouthFresh@lemmy.world 71 points 1 week ago
[–] FelixCress@lemmy.world 38 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] Bane_Killgrind@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago

Eugenicist.

[–] Coldcell@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Who would wilfully mingle with the broken genetics of a narcissist psychopath?

[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Luckily narcissism isn’t inherited, it’s learned. But you know what else is inherited? Money.

That being said, I don’t have a lot of faith in the morals of a parent who’d have a kid for the money.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Narcissism (NPL) is inherited and it's not learned. It's a DSM condition.

If you mean just being a jerk, then that doesn't look like this. That looks like Eichmann.

People that get donated sperm select for vanity all the time, so the kid learning that is more than not probable.

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 38 points 1 week ago

I'm not trying be judgmental. But I have to say, I think that might be too many kids.

[–] mhague@lemmy.world 31 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think I'm missing something because you don't usually donate sperm and then act like it's your children afterwards. It sounds like a creepy move to insert himself in the lives of a bunch of families.

[–] meco03211@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

He can insert whatever he wants if he's leaving me a portion of his fortune.

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[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Wow you kind of got to feel bad for his six real children. He says he sees no difference between any of his children. He sees no difference between the six kids he supposedly raised, or I guess his Nanny's raised I don't know, and the 95 Plus children who came from sperm donations. What a fucked up thing to say. What a bizarre way of looking at the world.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

his six real children

I mean, he fathered them. They're his biological children. And he's a billionaire, so its not like he doesn't have enough cash to spread around. No one is going hungry.

I guess his Nanny’s raised I don’t know

Right. The dude just wanted to maximize his baby-making rate. He didn't want to be a father. He just wanted to have offspring because he's in a Quiverfull cult in Silicon Valley that considers your number of children some kind of high score.

What a bizarre way of looking at the world.

That's billionaires for you. Abolish them.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I'm not saying I feel bad for them cuz they're not getting all the money. I'm saying I feel bad for them because they're supposed father says there's no difference between them and sperm donations he's never met. That's got to fuck a kid up.

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[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

he is probably completely invested in the idea that his genetic material is the real shit and is trying to make sure he disseminates it successfully. You gotta love these people who think that everyone else in the world is a NPC.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago

Mr Durov, 40, said he is the official father of six children with three partners. He started sperm donation 15 years ago and added that more than 100 babies were conceived that way.

He is worth US$13.9 billion (S$17.9 billion), according to the Bloomberg Billionaires Index.

“I want to specify that I make no difference between my children: There are those who were conceived naturally and those who come from my sperm donations,” he said. “They are all my children and will all have the same rights.”

“I wrote my will very recently,” he noted. “I decided that my children would not have access to my fortune until a period of 30 years has elapsed, starting from today.”

[–] bieren@lemmy.zip 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Gross as it is. At least he is leaving them money. Musk will leave his kids Nazi flags made in china.

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Fuuuuck that, are we really at the stage where leaving money is great? Thats ten million a pop. That isnt great, thats more generational wealth for undeserving nepo babies. Let them make their own way.

[–] Trebuchet@europe.pub 12 points 1 week ago

No one is more fertile than a scumbag

[–] aceshigh@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

Is musk in completion with this guy?

[–] boaratio@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] mPony@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

FTA

Mr Durov, 40, said he is the official father of six children with three partners. He started sperm donation 15 years ago and added that more than 100 babies were conceived that way.

[–] rickdg@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Is this guy even real or just a front for russian intelligence?

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

In appearances he seems to be real. Culturally quite typical for those jerks who are Russia's elite now, except their older generation holding power kinda hides that.

Durov is the intermediate generation, gross, but trying to pretend. I don't know if he was born to such a family (KGB/FSB/nomenclature relatives, getting a good education as a mathematician would check out then) or accepted into their, eh, society seems too strong a word.

It's like a network of thieves recognizing each other by their particular kind of behavior. There's too many of them to firmly know they are talking to one of their own, so that behavior and approach to life is all it takes to be perceived as one of them.

(I know you won't believe me, but they think that signature behavior is aristocratic or whatever, talking in Esopean language, dropping hints, not looking you in the eyes, cold faces, being silent and not talking a lot, fish eyes ; there are people with actual noble ancestry in Russia, they do have sort of a common approach to right behavior, and that's basically the opposite of this - talking to the other person directly, if making hints, then making it obvious that it's a metaphor, not trying to show contempt or threat in their face, being clear and honest, at least in appearances.)

Their part of my generation is just shit from the ass. Cunning and more evil, but no class or wisdom at all. I mean, there's a saying "order beats class", but they can have order only in ideal conditions too. Using bigger expense to imitate an achievement by smaller expense, which wouldn't be a compliment to their abilities even if it were real. What's worst is they don't even understand it.

Though this is where I must share one thing I've learned from them - you can imitate a level much higher than yours. You may have no taste, but read and imitate the taste of people who you want to deceive, and succeed. You may not know some domain area, but deceive those who do. Not have deeper understanding of some important mechanism, but imitate a person who does to those who do.

A thought similar to LLM bots in some sense. So - they are dangerous.

[–] RBWells@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Wow, his view of what makes someone your child is the absolute opposite of what I believe. Any child I raise is "my child". Anyone who considers me their mom is "my child", no matter who their biological parents are.

And, thankfully I've never been in a position to have to give one up for adoption but if so, I would say the parents who raised them are the parents, not me.

I really don't think he's their dad. If he wants to be a mysterious benefactor who gives them money because their moms used his sperm, that's not an awful thing to do, but saying they are his children is lunacy.

I sure hope he doesn't have any stepchildren, as presumably they'd be left out of this largesse.

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

people like him think that raising children = disseminating your genetic material. for him the kids are already lucky enough to get their prime genetic material.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Is this not the responsible thing to do?

[–] S0me0neNew@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

I guess that makes sense, yeah.

[–] Zier@fedia.io 2 points 1 week ago

This is the part of the movie where multiple of his offspring create a plan to end him.

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