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[–] over_clox@lemmy.world 123 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Too bad that happiness is banned in the USA..

[–] TheEntity@lemmy.world 52 points 3 days ago (2 children)

What a silly thing to say. It's merely prohibitively expensive. I mean, reasonably priced and readily available for those that deserve it.

[–] jared@mander.xyz 20 points 3 days ago (1 children)

All in a monthly subscription service.

[–] over_clox@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I thought it was a pay-per-smile subscription..

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[–] Hylactor@sopuli.xyz 19 points 3 days ago

Happiness breeds self esteem, self esteem breeds confidence, confidence breeds learning. Education, confidence, self esteem, and happiness are all antithetical to fear and obedience. We're much easier to rule if we're stressed out. Plus, the real reason for return to office is real estate value. It has nothing to do with worker morale or productivity.

[–] the_q@lemmy.zip 10 points 3 days ago

To be fair the pursuit of happiness in and of itself is an uncatchable carrot used to push the capitalist agenda. Happy moments are like sprinkles on a doughnut, few and far between. Contentment is what we should really be shooting for.

[–] Trollception@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

Yea sucks, they banned compassion and kindness too

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 96 points 3 days ago (5 children)

I propose that the mods should take this post down, or at least point to the original post, that cmu.fr has obviously plagiarized.

Here is what seems to be the original post: https://indiandefencereview.com/theyve-observed-teleworking-for-four-years-and-reached-one-clear-conclusion-working-from-home-makes-us-happier/

The big difference is that the original article actually points to the study: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35379616/ where as the cmu.fr plagiarized version makes no reference whatsoever to the study. Just vague slop about "scientists".

That said, I think that even the original article miscaracterizes the paper. Here is the paper abstract:

Objectives: To investigate the impacts, on mental and physical health, of a mandatory shift to working from home during the COVID-19 pandemic.

Design: Cross sectional, online survey.

Setting: Online survey was conducted from September 2020 to November 2020 in the general population.

Participants: Australian residents working from home for at least 2 days a week at some time in 2020 during the COVID-19 pandemic.

Main outcome measures: Demographics, caring responsibilities, working from home arrangements, work-related technology, work-family interface, psychosocial and physical working conditions, and reported stress and musculoskeletal pain.

Results: 924 Australians responded to the online questionnaire. Respondents were mostly women (75.5%) based in Victoria (83.7%) and employed in the education and training and healthcare sectors. Approximately 70% of respondents worked five or more days from home, with only 60% having a dedicated workstation in an uninterrupted space. Over 70% of all respondents reported experiencing musculoskeletal pain or discomfort. Gendered differences were observed; men reported higher levels of family to work conflict (3.16±1.52 to 2.94±1.59, p=0.031), and lower levels of recognition for their work (3.75±1.03 to 3.96±1.06, p=0.004), compared with women. For women, stress (2.94±0.92 to 2.66±0.88, p<0.001) and neck/shoulder pain (4.50±2.90 to 3.51±2.84, p<0.001) were higher than men and they also reported more concerns about their job security than men (3.01±1.33 to 2.78±1.40, p=0.043).

Conclusions: Preliminary evidence from the current study suggests that working from home may impact employees' physical and mental health, and that this impact is likely to be gendered. Although further analysis is required, these data provide insights into further research opportunities needed to assist employers in optimising working from home conditions and reduce the potential negative physical and mental health impacts on their employees.

Keywords: COVID-19; mental health; risk management.

So, long story short: this article is slop, copied from another piece of slop that mischaracterized a study. Overall: meh.

[–] OminousOrange@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 days ago

With that, survey data are some of the poorest quality data.

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[–] shittydwarf@sh.itjust.works 48 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works 20 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Someone has to provide proof for the answers to obvious questions, if for no other reason than to short circuit the "SoUrCe?" clowns.

[–] entwine413@lemm.ee 10 points 3 days ago

Exactly. It's never a bad thing to have hard data on what we think is obvious.

Especially since it's not uncommon for what's 'obvious' to be wrong.

[–] Zomg@lemmy.world 42 points 2 days ago (4 children)

It's also nice eating out of your own fridge, using your own toilet, and everything else.

[–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Bidet, and that’s all I’ll say

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[–] prettybunnys@piefed.social 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

from a “managing people” standpoint it’s a little easier (at least in my field) too, because it becomes obvious when someone’s product is shit if I’m paying attention

also i really like shitting at home

[–] raynethackery@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

I could tolerate going in to the office if I had my own bathroom.

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 31 points 2 days ago (4 children)

I both agree and disagree with the conclusions in the title....

I agree that for many people, they're happier, and likely more productive, working from home.

I would also agree that for many different people, working from an office makes them happier/more productive.

It entirely depends on the job, who you are, and the work culture. Some places are toxic and working from home to get away from it is helpful for job satisfaction. I've known people who simply focus better when they're at the office since they have a lot of distractions at home. I know for me, the opposite is true. at home, I'm in control and can limit exposure to distractions, and I can be more productive, more comfortable and overall less unhappy with my job.

IMO, this discussion is less about what companies want, whether work from home or hybrid, or in office .... The main conclusion that we should be driving home is that different people need different environments to do their best work, and be happiest with their particular job. To put it simply: workers need to be able to choose.

Until we're at the stage where employers care less about how, and where you do the work, and they care more about the work getting done.... We're going to keep going back and forth on this.

I like to work from home. That's me.

I know people who prefer to work from an office. There's plenty of people who feel they work best from the office.

There's plenty of people that need to mix between home and office work.

Bluntly: as long as you can do the work from where you're working, and how you're working, the rest should be flexible. We're (presumably) adults and professionals. If we're given work and we're being paid to do the work, then we will do the work. We don't need to be constantly supervised by middle management like toddlers.

[–] endeavor@sopuli.xyz 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I am more productive and less depressed working from site and if i work too much from home I get depressed and adhd kicks in and paralizes me.

I don't see how it benefits everyone not to allow people to work from home at the same time.

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[–] Nalivai@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I like to work from home. That’s me.

And there is, as it turns out, a lot of people like that. Doesn't actually mean everyone is like that. But it does mean that being given this option, we, as humanity and as workers, are happier.
Your reply reminds me that "I'm not pro-life or pro-choice, I just want people to be able to chose do they want to have an abortion or not".

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Add to this that your preference may change as your life does. Lifestage makes a big difference.

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[–] ansiz@lemmy.world 25 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Just gaining back all the commute time everyday is such a huge bonus for me. Nothing at an office can compare to that alone. And I get to add in a ton of other nice bonuses from being at home.

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[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 23 points 2 days ago (2 children)

A hard truth is that if you see an executive pushing return to office, you know one of two things about them. One of the following is true.

  1. They are terrible at finance and don't understand the sunk-cost fallacy. They have to keep using that building they bought; they've spent so much on it and simply can't bring themselves to sell it.

  2. They're a sexual molester. They're someone that uses the power of their position to coerce sex out of their employees. Fucking their employees is their primary motivation for not retiring early right now. You can't coerce your secretary to give you a blowjob over Zoom.

That's really it. They're either bad at business or they're a sexual predator. If you see an executive pushing return to office, be sure to ask them which one of these they are. Because they're definitely one or the other.

[–] unhrpetby@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 days ago (3 children)
  1. Tradition.
  2. Belief that work-from-home is less efficient.
[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 days ago (6 children)

So

  1. They're morons and terrible at business.
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[–] ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Well, it makes most of us happier. There was a minority of people who were very unhappy about remote working and who were eager for everyone to be forced back into the office. Not me, but there were some people.

[–] 6nk06@sh.itjust.works 21 points 3 days ago

It was managers, especially middle-managers. And if they are not happy, no one can be happy. Too bad middle-managers are always unhappy.

[–] zeldakong64@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I must say I am happiest with hybrid. As someone living alone I start to chew the furniture with my work happening in the same space as my leisure. I do love the flexibility, the fact that I can literally just make lunch and eat it rather than dealing with a wet lunchbox sandwich. But I do like to see other people, and an entirely remote lifestyle makes me go a little crazy

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[–] spykee@lemm.ee 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Of course it does!
When I get a complaint email I can yell at Myles to go fuck himself with a toilet brush, all whole sitting in my favourite chair and Myles will still wish me a good evening at the end of the work day.
What's not to like?

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[–] TomMasz@piefed.social 15 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Little do they know that worker happiness is considered the enemy of productivity.* Plus, it's harder to micromanage them when they're at home.

*By employers, not the workers, obviously.

[–] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I don't get this.

When I was unhappy at my last job I was way less productive.

Now I'm enjoying my new job and spend my time solving real technical problems and building real projects.

I was considering taking a pay cut just to leave my last job it had gotten so toxic. You can pay employees less if they're otherwise satisfied.

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[–] selkiesidhe@lemm.ee 14 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Truth. I am so happy where I'm at that I am not looking for a new job with better pay because I love WFH so much. I know here I will always WFH.

Don't need to put on makeup, don't need to put together outfits for the week, don't need to drive anywhere. I wake up thirty minutes before I clock in.

Love it!

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[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Yes, but you have to consider the poor CEO's and middle managers. They need to be able to strut around an office full of people and feel important. Plus there's all that office space they leased for the next 30 years at a discount that they need to fill with workers to justify the expense!!

It cruel to only consider the happiness of the slave class while ignoring the plight of the ruling class. Don't you people know that?!?!?

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[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (6 children)

We've had this capacity for several decades now, and it seems ridiculous that our culture has not fully embraced it with open arms. If that's not a sign that "we the people" aren't running the show, I don't know what is. Freedom my ass.

[–] Crankenstein@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Due to how isolating our culture and urban planning has become, a lot of people have started using their work as a replacement for their social life. Without it they realize just how caged they are under this system, so they refuse it. They think being given more free time and the ability to do work from the comfort of their own home is a bad thing because it takes away their social outlet.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

People have to do what's best for them. If they need to commute to a job to have a social life, let them. This is absolutely not a reason to force other people to do it.

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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 13 points 2 days ago

That's why they want to put a stop to it. You're not allowed to be happy.

[–] Bebopalouie@lemmy.ca 12 points 3 days ago
[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

Working from home has been the default for the last few millenia. Who would have thought that it could make people happier?

[–] UncleGrandPa@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

The very fact that it is something that the workers want

Is WHY Employers want to halt it.

Too many Employers believe that anything the workers want is necessarily bad for Businesses ... BECAUSE the workers want it

[–] burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

how will landlords who own all the buildings in business districts get paid, then? do you want their properties to stay empty? do you just want them to starve?

[–] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

Just an FYI, most commercial real estate is owned by massive corporations because they're the only ones with enough money to build and own skyscrapers. Most mom and pop landlords are residential and they own 4 units or less. It's very rare for an average, even a wealthy average person to own more than a couple of commercial properties that they rent out. Corporate landlords are very much a big reason why WFH isn't the standard.

[–] Zaraki42@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 days ago
[–] mrodri89@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Even better is if we all got a monthly allowance and not have to work full time. 😆

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