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[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 27 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

The language in this title is quite a piece of art eh?

  • "Iran threatens"

  • "War with Israel escalates"

Chef's kiss.

[–] SlothMama@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

"Iran launches Nuclear and explosive words" - headlines, 2025

[–] remon@ani.social 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

close the Strait of Hormuz

Do they want to lose half their navy in a day, again?

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Again? Also Yemen carried out something resembling blockade without even having a navy, so I wouldn't bet on force working if they were to go through with this.

[–] BombOmOm@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Do they want to lose half their navy in a day, again?

For those who want to watch a great animated video on the event: Operation Praying Mantis

[–] tal@lemmy.today 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The article says that it's most-likely just rhetoric from Iran.

Strait Of Hormuz: High Stakes, Low Odds

Hard-line media and several officials have again raised the possibility of closing the Strait of Hormuz -- a move that would threaten nearly a fifth of the world’s oil supply. But Gregory Brew, a senior Iran and oil analyst at the New York-based Eurasia Group, says it’s a threat Tehran is unlikely to carry out.

“Closing the strait is Iran's last big card to play,” Brew told RFE/RL. “It has the means of essentially blockading the waterway…by deploying short-range ballistic missiles, naval vessels, and mines.”

But attempting to blockade the strategic strait would have major ramifications, such as “immediately” triggering a response from the United States and the Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC).

“If war with Israel is proving very damaging, war with the US (and the GCC) would be much worse,” Brew said.

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 4 points 1 day ago

It is the dead-mans trigger. As Israel reaffirms it wants to force regime change and commit more atrocities against Iran's civilians, that threat becomes more realistic.

The GCC countries are certainly not going to be able to shift any balances around. What are they going to do? A ground invasion of Iran? Best they can do is help Israel bomb Civilians. And we saw how Saudi and UAE bombing Civilians in Yemen non-stop did fuck all except kill a lot of people.

The response would have to come from the US and other NATO countries, pulling their focus from Ukraine and containing China. Then it will be bye bye Ukraine and bye bye Taiwan and Israel will get what it wants, being the center of Western attention for all eternity.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I hope they do manage to develop a nuke.

That's the only thing that's going to stop this war, the worry about mutually-assured destruction.

[–] scott@lemmy.org 38 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Honestly the Israelis actually seem crazy enough to keep escalating even in that case

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

I mean Israel is legitimately the state most likely to use a nuclear weapon.

[–] WhyIAughta@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

They don’t give a fuck about the people or the land it’s the control they want. They even have a protocol of they were to lose control of the area and are about to lose Israel called the Samson option, where they just nuke themselves, level the whole area and make it uninhabitable.

[–] rumimevlevi@lemmings.world 12 points 1 day ago

They been comiting war crimes for 77 years with little accountability. Making them crazier

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world -2 points 1 day ago

I strongly doubt that. The thought of a nuke being deployed on Jerusalem would give even the craziest Israeli pause.

[–] Kekzkrieger@feddit.org 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Would be great if more extremist radical goverments had nukes.

What the f dude, fuck no, if anything nobody should have any nukes, send these lunatics to a desert with only their fists and let them set their differences there.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

if anything nobody should have any nukes

Agreed, but that's not the world we live in. And it is the extremist governments that have nukes. That's partly how the US gets away with making war in seven countries at once. (That we know of.)

[–] Kekzkrieger@feddit.org 0 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I mean the US is not perfect, they also have a clown as a president that does so much harm.

However crazy that may be, Irans regime still has the complete obliteration of a country as their agende and goal. Surely these people should.never have nukes.

[–] rumimevlevi@lemmings.world 7 points 1 day ago

Us is the biggest bully in at least the 50 last years bombing a dozen of countries, destroying many and organizing dozens of coups. But for yiu this is just a not perfect country and frame it as if trump is the only war criminal president

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Surely these people should.never have nukes.

The same people who waited until they were attacked before fighting back? The same so-called extremists who, for decades, have worked within the international community to develop their nuclear program? (Before Donald decided to fund and arm an Israeli war against them, and this was after ordering assassinations of their leaders in his last admin.)

I think that you're listening to some very biased newscasts in constructing this opinion.

[–] Kekzkrieger@feddit.org -2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Wait so the Iran government are the good guys just wanting peace? What am i getting wrong here?

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 7 points 1 day ago

The fact that Iran evidently worked together and upheld the JCPOA, when the West was serious about diplomacy. Then Trump came and everyone was like "okay screw diplomacy, lets just keep increasing pressure and hope the country collapses"- Then Israel came and was like "lets bomb the shit out of them to have the West love me again and stop caring about the genocide i am committing." Then the West was like "hurr durr, Israel has the right to defend itself by attacking anyone and everyone whenever it pleases and why is Iran defending itself, how dare they?!"

When Israel assassinated politician in Iran last year. Iran only replied in a measured way to safe face, but seek deescalation. When Israel bombed Iran, Iran for the longest time did not retaliate and when it retaliated still only targeted spots with little risk of injuring or killing people, again being a "don't tread on me" reaction, without seeking escalation. Now Israel is completely out of their mind and went on to announce and celebrate direct attacks on Civilians, effectively telling Iran, that they are out for annihilating the country.

[–] FelixCress@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Iran was attacked by Israel not the other way around. Go figure.

[–] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Country? Or Western colonial regime that has been murdering and displacing the locals indiscriminately for decades? You're not getting me with semantics, friend.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's always interesting to me when people unironically downplay the destruction the US government causes and has caused on a planetary, not even local scale.

[–] LongLive@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago

I bet we will not find out where or how many broken arrows will/occur/red in Iran.

[–] Barberserk@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

I hope they do both.