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I'm talking about games that you still like but you had no idea were criticized so much.

The perfect example for me is Sonic Unleashed.

I admit that the game has its bad things, but I would have never imagined that it was so hated at the time... Although, that could be extended to the entire Sonic franchise, since for many years I was not aware at all of that "Sonic was never good", "Sonic had a rough transition to 3D" nonsense.

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[–] flamingos@feddit.uk 64 points 1 day ago (11 children)

Fallout 3. The criticism is absolutely fair*, but it was the first RPG I ever played and I'm still very fond of it.

* I never got the 'metros are hard to navigate' criticism, I never had that issues. Most of them are pretty linear.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 34 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

So, I'm an ardent 'New Vegas is the best 3D Fallout game' person.

But... Fallout 3 is not a bad game.

It is fun, it is enjoyable. It has solid game mechanics, it has a good number of well written characters and questlines, it is fun to just explore and find crazy shit.

It has flaws, yes.

But it is far from bad.

It just isn't as good as New Vegas, which imo, basically just did everything FO3 did, but better, had a better overall storyline, refined and improved on all the gameplay mechanics, added in new gameplay features/elements.

[–] BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee 8 points 18 hours ago

i dont think new vegas had better exploration. fo3 is still pretty unmatched in that. so many unmarked gems in fo3

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 7 points 17 hours ago

It also had some big gameplay departures from 1 & 2. I'm not talking about being an FPS (although no longer having to worry about accuracy was pretty significant) but the fact that putting on different clothing magically made you more intelligent, and that it was a lot easier to do everything.
In FO3 you can pick all the locks, hack all the computers, pass all the conversation checks, and take on hordes of enemies all by yourself. In FO1+2 you had to pick the couple of things you were good at and not be able to do the other things until your next run.

[–] LucasWaffyWaf@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

A lot of the metros look copy and pasted; whole hallways, rooms, so it gets a little confusing.

[–] flamingos@feddit.uk 9 points 1 day ago

Oh for sure, Fallout 3 Geoguesser would be hard. Idk, I just never had a problem navigating them, even if they were a bit samey.

[–] Zidane@sh.itjust.works 7 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

FO3 is my favorite Fallout (haven't played 4 or 76 yet).

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[–] Battle_Masker@lemmy.blahaj.zone 36 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Yoshi's Story. Yeah it's short, and level unlocking is weird as all outdoors, but people really hating on it for being too easy? Bro, it's a YOSHI game. That's a quarter of the appeal! It's a game you can get younger kids involved in, or you can play after a hard day when you want to turn your brain off partially.

Plus almost everything in that game is adorable. And 64 bit sprite art is goated

[–] otp@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I dunno, Yoshi's Island can get pretty hard...

[–] missingno@fedia.io 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Story (N64), not Island (SNES).

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[–] whygohomie@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Its the context and expectations. The last "Yoshi" game was a mainline Super Mario World 2, and people expected similar scope and challenge but in 64 bits. Super Mario 64 had further primed people for crazy genetlrational leaps. Yoshi's Story was a fine game, but it wasnt SMW3 by a longshot.

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[–] criss_cross@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I loved Yoshi’s Story as a kid. Never knew there was hate for it for a long time.

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[–] 11111one11111@lemmy.world 36 points 1 day ago

Every game that ever gets released when you check gaming forums within the first month of a game's release lol /s

Im joking. I get the sentiment that a finished product should be fully complete and inspected by a QA team before release. But still, the fuckin extreme hatred ill see for the game and its studio, regardless of the company's history, is soooooo fuckin wild. And almost everytime when I get to the point of buying the game, ill check the steam reviews and it'll be mostly positive after like one patch release.

[–] ch00f@lemmy.world 32 points 22 hours ago (4 children)

Super Mario Sunshine. I thought it was just hard as a kid. Come to learn it’s fucking broken.

[–] OutOfMemory@sh.itjust.works 17 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Wait, people hate it? I still do nostalgia playthroughs occasionally, one of my favs for GC.

[–] ch00f@lemmy.world 7 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

There were so many issues

  • Final boss was lame and level leading to it was slow and tedious completely killing the momentum
  • Camera system was wonky
  • Rocket nozzle barely got any play
  • Jet nozzle was too difficult to control to be useful outside of specific racing segments
  • Pachinko machine physics were fucked
  • The lily pad level was unfairly difficult
  • There was no way to track which blue coins you found. Like even a grey coin marker for already collected coins would have been super helpful.
  • The reward for getting blue coins was pathetic
  • Yoshi was criminally underutilized. The whole juice mechanic was used like twice.

The whole thing just felt rushed. Like there was another third of the game that they didn’t get to make.

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[–] ILikeTraaaains@lemmy.world 7 points 18 hours ago

I’ve just learned about it right now. I loved it but I thought that it was a skill issue, I’m not a great player overall.

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[–] chowdertailz@lemmy.world 31 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Destiny 2.

Started playing the first game day one but stopped for several years. Picked up 2 when I found out it was ftp right after beyond light came out and bought all the dlcs available until after lightfall. I was at work and a customer asked what games I play. Said D2 and someone else said "why would you do that to yourself?" I thought hard about that for awhile and realized all I do is grind and don't really have that much fun with it. It was more like a second job. And lightfall was a garbage dlc. That was also a major contributer to me quitting.

[–] LaserTurboShark69@sh.itjust.works 32 points 1 day ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

My biggest issue with Destiny 2 is that I paid $60 for it and then it soon went free to play and I had absolutely nothing to show for that $60 I paid.

Edit: oh yeah and that original $60 campaign was removed from the game by the time I went back to check out what was new. There was straight up less content available for me after not playing for a year. I felt so ripped off that I wrote the game off.

[–] chowdertailz@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

I was excited to start again right as beyond light dropped, but it was confusing as hell as a new player because they sunset the starting campaign. Weird to have to research how to play a game.

[–] De_Narm@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (12 children)

Final Fantasy Tactics Advance

People only ever talk about Final Fantasy Tactics and dismiss any of the other games. However, going by the original release, Tactics Advance is by far my favorite. It's my favorite GBA game and at least in my Top 25 JRPGs, despite having played almost nothing else for the past 20 years. I like many of the things the game gets criticized for.

Marche and the general lesson of FFTA are great, to me. I love the strategic map mechanics. And honestly, I think the Laws (except in the cases where they're intended to be screwy) are neat additions that make you have to think.

[–] Coelacanth@feddit.nu 8 points 1 day ago

Bruh, FFTA is a great game and I will hear no slander of it.

[–] ryven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 22 hours ago (4 children)

This is the one where we bully our little brother into going back to the world where he can't walk, right? :P

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[–] missingno@fedia.io 24 points 1 day ago (6 children)

I have a lot of childhood nostalgia for Donkey Kong 64. If you were a kid who could only get a new game every few months or so, this giant behemoth of a game will last a long time.

But it undeniably is a bloated clusterfuck, the internet is not wrong in hindsight.

Next thing that comes to mind for me is the GBA port of Tales of Phantasia. Symphonia was a huge part of my adolescent years, and as soon as I heard this was getting a GBA remake I was all over it. Loved it, and didn't hear until much later that GBA is apparently considered the worst version of the game. If PSP ever gets translated, I'd love to see what I missed out on...

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 22 hours ago

hbomberguy did a 50+ hour 101% nightmare stream for trans charity a while back and I watched the whole thing. I would not subject myself to playing that game but damn it was interesting to see.

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[–] Odo@lemmy.world 23 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

E.T.

Yes really. I played it all the time as a kid and didn't think it was any more difficult or abstract than the rest of the 2600's catalogue. Granted, we kept the manual, which made a huge difference in understanding and enjoying its bizarre logic, but still. I had no idea it was so hated until at least a decade later.

[–] vrighter@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 17 hours ago (6 children)

it was actually way ahead of its time, for a game. One small bug (the workaround for which was in the manual) ruined its reputation. But I genuinely think it was a good game.

Also written in 6 weeks by one guy. Freaking impressive

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[–] gegil@sopuli.xyz 23 points 1 day ago (4 children)

For me it was war thunder. Seen this game advertised on youtube a while ago, and about year ago i decided to just install it and see what this game is. Firstly i liked it. It was fun game to play. After some time of playing this game, i wanted to see videos of this game on youtube, and thats where i found a lot of criticizm for this game. Only after hitting about 60 hours of total playtime, i started understanding the hate for this game myself. I did not played war thunder ever since. For context, the main reason for hate to this game is that it is too grindy, and it will take hundreds of hours to reach top tier, even with premium account.

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[–] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

How old were you when you played Sonic Unleashed? I thoroughly played and enjoyed Sonic Adventure 2 for the Gamecube when I was in middle school, but revisiting it as an adult, it was so hard to envision how I ever enjoyed the way that game controls. However, even though my muscle memory was totally gone, since all the levels I knew from SA2 were remixed, Sonic Generations was good even as an adult.

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[–] Gerudo@lemm.ee 16 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

A lot of people didn't like Assassins Creed Odyssey, but I loved it. Only AC I've played since 2.

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[–] figjam@midwest.social 16 points 12 hours ago (7 children)

Final Fantasy 8. I loved it but apparently I was in the minority.

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[–] Cratermaker@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 16 hours ago (4 children)

I rented Superman 64 as a kid, never knowing it was a universally hated game. We had fun with the weird multiplayer mode where you fly around in weird pod things. I remember flying through the rings too. The whole game makes zero sense in hindsight.

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[–] Crankenstein@lemmy.world 13 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (4 children)

Indigo Prophecy

Played it when it originally released in the US and I loved it as a pre-teen who had no fucking idea what was happening in the story.

Came to find out no one had any clue what was happening in the story regardless and people thought the game was a mess.

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[–] Die4Ever@retrolemmy.com 13 points 21 hours ago (8 children)

Sonic Adventure 1. I love the hub worlds and how the stories of the different characters intertwine in the shared areas. And I love the variety of characters and being able to freely choose which one to advance (unlike Sonic Adventure 2...)

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[–] damdy@lemm.ee 12 points 1 day ago (9 children)

Mine was final fantasy 12. I played that game so hard, really enjoyed it and if was released in the time of trophies I would have platinumed it. Even did the grinding for Gilgamesh to spawn for a sword or something. But I was hated at the time.

Now everyone is saying it was one of the best and I was proved right all along.

Sure the story was star wars and the main character wasn't, but the combat system was really fun, way better than 13.

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[–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Assassin's Creed Odyssey apparently, according to reddit a few years ago, was looked at as being shitty I guess? Not the best one?

It's the only one I played, and I played it 3 times with ~240 hours. Kassandra is my favorite character ever, in any video game. I loved the world, its beauty, the ships and sea, and shooting arrows through rocks as a demo god.

I've still not touched any other assassins game.

[–] Precreation@lemmy.world 10 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Odyssey was really good in a vacuum. Ive heard it described best as that it was a good action RPG set in Greece, but not a good Assassins Creed game. The main issue being that stealth was usually a huge focus in previous titles, but this one seemed to favor general combat and didnt even have the signature wrist blade until the DLC. Also a bunch of the story seemed to return pieces of previous lore, some setup in just the previous game that came out a year prior. Overall though I did enjoy the game!

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[–] tuckerm@feddit.online 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Thief 3. I had never played a Thief game before and thought it was great. Apparently, fans of the first two games were disappointed with it at first. I think the criticism didn't last long, though. Everyone now seems to agree that it was good.

[–] CountVon@sh.itjust.works 9 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

Do you mean Thief: Deadly Shadows? That was the 3rd game in the series, and from what I understand it was pretty well received. The orphanage level alone is so highly regarded that it has its own Wikipedia page.

Now the 2014 reboot, just titled Thief, that was so poorly received the it basically killed the series. It might have been a decent game, but it was not a good Thief game.

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[–] Arcane2077@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Every Ubisoft game since Assassin's Creed 2

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[–] swelter_spark@reddthat.com 10 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

I really enjoyed Mass Effect: Andromeda.

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[–] Fogle@lemmy.ca 10 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Too human. I loved it so much I don't know why people hate it

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[–] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 9 points 8 hours ago (5 children)

I enjoyed Outer Worlds. Tons of criticism online, but I liked it.

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[–] AmosBurton_ThatGuy@lemmy.ca 8 points 23 hours ago

Final fantasy 13. Rented it as a kid for the 360 for a week and loved it. Didn't get to finish it, but as soon as it released for PC shortly after I built my first PC I played it and loved it. I now have over 300 hours in the game on steam and have beaten it 4 times. One of my favourite FF games despite how much the fanbase shits on the game.

I also don't care for the 2nd game in the trilogy despite that being the fanbase's "preferred" game of the trilogy. Did not like the "monster as a 3rd party member" thing at all. Lightning returns is also amazing and I've put a couple hundred hours into that game and beaten it 3 times as well.

Love the FF 13 games even if they get shit on a lot by FF fans. 13 will always be one of my favourite games.

[–] CharlesReed@fedia.io 8 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Dead Space 3. Sure, it has some issues, but I didn't realize how much others actively disliked it until I tried talking to people about it.

Edit: And the point of the post is immediately proven lol

[–] Dogiedog64@lemmy.world 12 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Dead Space is one of those series where the first 2 games set the expectations UNBELIEVABLY high. So high, in fact, that the developers were actually terrified they couldn't live up to the legend, and were terrified they were gonna make a bad game that ruined the series. But they were gonna try their damndest.

And then EA executives came along, and they saw that """all the rage""" those days was in Co-Op action shooters a-la Resident Evil 5/6 and Army Of 2, or Gears of War, and they DEMANDED that Dead Space 3 be """more like that""", or else. So they did it, and were also forced to shove microtransactions into the game with crafting materials.

The end result? Dead Space 3 was an... alright 3rd-person action-horror co-op shooter. Not great, not terrible, but... alright. An above-average shade of mediocre, certainly worth playing on its own merits, both mechanically and plot-wise, but not much more than that. A perfectly OK game.

And an absolutely TERRIBLE Dead Space game. Previous installments sold millions on multiple platforms. DS3... didn't, and it ended up killing the studio.

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