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[–] FerretyFever0@fedia.io 90 points 1 week ago

Shocking. Who'd have guessed that this could happen?

[–] bzz@lemmy.world 69 points 1 week ago (10 children)

I’m no Israel supporter but fuck the IRGC. I hope Iranians can at least get a regime change out of this. Death to khamenei and death to all the IRGC leadership. I hope they all become kotlets.

[–] ne0n@lemmy.world 52 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Let’s hope for the same in Israel. Both need it badly.

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[–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 19 points 6 days ago

I mean, fuck Hamas too. They’re far right fundamentalists. But fuck Israel so much harder. And for the time being the enemy of my enemy, etc.

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[–] x00z@lemmy.world 35 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Oh man it's gonna be a good day when Israel falls.

[–] torrentialgrain@lemm.ee 59 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (25 children)

This website is collectively completely deluded. Every thread on this topic I see people (I’m assuming tankies and/or actual Hamas supporters) fantasizing about Iran destroying Israel with is… just laughable from an objective PoV.

I despise the Israeli government but regardless of my feelings towards them, their military is so much more advanced than Iran's, it’s not even comparable. And they have the backstop of a US carrier group, in case something does go wrong.

Unfortunately it’s all feelings and no facts on this website. Makes it really hard to actually engage with people.

[–] massive_bereavement@fedia.io 28 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I know nothing about defense and everything I learned, I did so at NCD, but doesn't Iran have like 88 million people and Israel just 9 million, and Iran has like six times Israel's active personnel? Iirc they're one of the largest armies in ME.

Then again, just by sheer numbers Russia was supposed to overrun Ukraine, 1M dead later and they're still where they started plus few towns charred to the bone.

[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Perhaps this map will help:

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To get from Iran to Israel, the Iranian soldiers would have to cross Iraq (and Jordan) or Syria, both very unfriendly countries full of mountainous terrain. Not a viable ground invasion whatsoever!

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[–] ahornsirup@feddit.org 27 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Iran's standing forces are kind of irrelevant without a way to get them to Israel.

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[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Iran has many remote areas that are populated. Their military equipment is decades behind, and Israel gets all their equipment from the US.

The comparison here is very stark; in a single strike Israel managed to cripple Iran's nuclear program, kill a lot of leadership that has been around since their revolution, and completely eradicate all of their radar and early warning systems on the West side of the country.

The best response Iran has? Just over 100 drones. Most of them got shot down before they even reached Israel.

Israel gets a free pass on bullying anyone they see fit in the Middle East.

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[–] belastend@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (8 children)

Iran has 82 million inhabitants.

The amount of people willing to die for this regime is much much smaller. 16% are Azerí, 10% Kurds and 2% Balochi, all groups who would rather die than fight for the IRI. Not that this would stop the IRI from pressing 15 year olds into service, but there wouldn't be many volunteers.

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[–] undefined@lemmy.hogru.ch 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This website

You realize Lemmy is a network of federated servers right? Like, I’m not on the same website as you but you’re reading my message.

[–] Soulg@ani.social 16 points 1 week ago

A lot of people don't, they just know it's where to go when you get fed up with reddit

[–] AmidFuror@fedia.io 22 points 1 week ago (9 children)

It's not just their total disconnect from history (were they born yesterday?), it's their translating scorn for Israel's actions in the region to mean that Israel's opponents must be the good guys.

Iran has been under the control of two different mullahs for the last 45 years. Just because the Shah was bad doesn't make the Ayatollahs good.

Hamas and Hezbollah are literally terrorist organizations, and Hamas holds onto power in Gaza by oppression and violence. If they both weren't getting massive support from Iran, there might be a negotiating partner for Israel in Palestine like Arafat was.

Without Iran's support, Russia would be failing much faster in Ukraine as well.

[–] OutForARip@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 week ago

Israel is literally a terrorist country.

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[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They didn't say Iran was going to singlehandedly do it

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[–] net00@lemmy.today 14 points 1 week ago

Yeah the entire discourse about this conflict here is even more stupider than on reddit

[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Unfortunately it’s all feelings and no facts on this website.

Which social website do you know that is all facts and no feelings, please tell me, I wanna move there. And make it decentralized too, so no bozo can buy it tomorrow and make it shit too.

PS: got some quotes from reddit that show what people who think just like you think of other websites:

DigitalDash56 [score hidden] 2 minutes ago

Twitter is funny. Apparently Tel Aviv is smoldering crater and the state of Israel is a mere hours from collapsing

[–]tigernike1 [score hidden] a minute ago

That’s what Reddit says about Iran. Neither are true.

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I don't believe anyone is saying Iran is capable of doing it, just that it'd be a good day when it finally does happen.

Israel has all the best toys from their sugar-daddy America. Of course a handful of out-dated Iranian drones won't do shit.

[–] torrentialgrain@lemm.ee 7 points 1 week ago

In the last 24 hours I had the pleasure of interacting with multiple users who are 100% sure Iran is stronger than Israel.

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[–] RadioFreeArabia@lemmy.world 23 points 6 days ago (6 children)

Since Zionist colonialism began, the region has been drawn from one conflict to another. It operates like a cancerous tumor.

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[–] MetalMachine@feddit.nl 20 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Iran's current regime has committed many crimes, while I hate them, I also hate Israel who's committing an active genocide. Israel is a foreign entity, Iran is not. Today its Iran, tomorrow its some other country.

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[–] itisileclerk@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The title suggest that Israel's bombing in the first place was New Hope?

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[–] OutForARip@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (8 children)

I doubt they can beat the US, but I hope Iran wins.

Terrorists like Israel need to be eliminated.

[–] einkorn@feddit.org 77 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I'd rather prefer both sides losing.

And then a proper democratic revolution on both sides again.

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 11 points 1 week ago

Yes please! I can't stand either regime.

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[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 35 points 1 week ago (8 children)

Lemmy straight up cheering theocratic terrorists

[–] 10001110101@lemm.ee 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The Iranian regime is fucking awful, the Israeli one is just even more awful such that Iran still seem like the good guys in comparison. Its like two assholes fighting, they're both assholes but one clearly started it.

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[–] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 27 points 1 week ago (29 children)

Do you really want Iran to have nukes though?

Just because Israel are horrible, doesn't automatically make the people they're fighting the good guys.

[–] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

Honestly no but if I lived in a country or bloc without nukes myself I'd want my government to get them because its the only way to not get randomly regime changed whenever the US, UK or Russia feels like it. Totally understandable why they would want them.

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[–] Anomalocaris@lemm.ee 5 points 1 week ago (4 children)

given how the US lost so many recent wars, I wouldn't consider the US a military power.

they are great at funneling taxpayer money to shareholders pockets. but they can't win against the protest people in the world.

they invade, try to set up a puppet state, then leave with the tail between their legs.

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