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[–] cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.com 210 points 2 days ago (6 children)
[–] sexy_peach@feddit.org 96 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] And009@lemmynsfw.com 30 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] xavier666@lemm.ee 18 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Henceforth, AGI should be called "almost general intelligence"

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[–] Qwazpoi@lemmy.world 26 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Try it with o3 maybe it needs time to think 😝

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[–] altkey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Apparently, this robot is japanese.

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm going to hell for laughing at that

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[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (13 children)

Obligatory 'lore dump' on the word lollapalooza:

That word was a common slang term in the 1930s/40s American lingo that meant... essentially a very raucous, lively party.

Note/Rant on the meaning of this term

The current merriam webster and dictionary.com definitions of this term meaning 'an outstanding or exceptional or extreme thing' are wrong, they are too broad.

While historical usage varied, it almost always appeared as a noun describing a gathering of many people, one that was so lively or spectacular that you would be exhausted after attending it.

When it did not appear as a noun describing a lively, possibly also 'star-studded' or extravagant, party, it appeared as a term for some kind of action that would cause you to be bamboozled, discombobulated... similar to 'that was a real humdinger of a blahblah' or 'that blahblah was a real doozy'... which ties into the effects of having been through the 'raucous party' meaning of lolapalooza.

So... in WW2, in the Pacific theatre... many US Marines were often engaged in brutal, jungle combat, often at night, and they adopted a system of basically verbal identification challenge checks if they noticed someone creeping up on their foxholes at night.

An example of this system used in the European theatre, I believe by the 101st and 82nd airborne, was the challenge 'Thunder!' to which the correct response was 'Flash!'.

In the Pacific theatre... the Marines adopted a challenge / response system... where the correct response was 'Lolapalooza'...

Because native born Japanese speakers are taught a phoneme that is roughly in between and 'r' and an 'l' ... and they very often struggle to say 'Lolapalooza' without a very noticable accent, unless they've also spent a good deal of time learning spoken English (or some other language with distinct 'l' and 'r' phonemes), which very few Japanese did in the 1940s.

::: spoiler racist and nsfw historical example of / evidence for this

https://www.ep.tc/howtospotajap/howto06.html

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Now, some people will say this is a total myth, others will say it is not.

My Grandpa who served in the Pacific Theatre during WW2 told me it did happen, though he was Navy and not a Marine... but the other stories about this I've always heard that say it did happen, they all say it happened with the Marines.

My Grandpa is also another source for what 'lolapalooza' actually means.

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[–] VirgilMastercard@reddthat.com 148 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 89 points 2 days ago (12 children)

I know there’s no logic, but it’s funny to imagine it’s because it’s pronounced Mrs. Sippy

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 days ago

And if it messed up on the other word, we could say because it’s pronounced Louisianer.

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[–] cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.com 44 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It is going to be funny those implementation of LLM in accounting software

[–] Slotos@feddit.nl 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 days ago

Interesting….troubleshooting is going to be interesting in the future

[–] RedstoneValley@sh.itjust.works 127 points 2 days ago (9 children)

It's funny how people always quickly point out that an LLM wasn't made for this, and then continue to shill it for use cases it wasn't made for either (The "intelligence" part of AI, for starters)

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 43 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (17 children)

LLM wasn’t made for this

There's a thought experiment that challenges the concept of cognition, called The Chinese Room. What it essentially postulates is a conversation between two people, one of whom is speaking Chinese and getting responses in Chinese. And the first speaker wonders "Does my conversation partner really understand what I'm saying or am I just getting elaborate stock answers from a big library of pre-defined replies?"

The LLM is literally a Chinese Room. And one way we can know this is through these interactions. The machine isn't analyzing the fundamental meaning of what I'm saying, it is simply mapping the words I've input onto a big catalog of responses and giving me a standard output. In this case, the problem the machine is running into is a legacy meme about people miscounting the number of "r"s in the word Strawberry. So "2" is the stock response it knows via the meme reference, even though a much simpler and dumber machine that was designed to handle this basic input question could have come up with the answer faster and more accurately.

When you hear people complain about how the LLM "wasn't made for this", what they're really complaining about is their own shitty methodology. They build a glorified card catalog. A device that can only take inputs, feed them through a massive library of responses, and sift out the highest probability answer without actually knowing what the inputs or outputs signify cognitively.

Even if you want to argue that having a natural language search engine is useful (damn, wish we had a tool that did exactly this back in August of 1996, amirite?), the implementation of the current iteration of these tools is dogshit because the developers did a dogshit job of sanitizing and rationalizing their library of data. Also, incidentally, why Deepseek was running laps around OpenAI and Gemini as of last year.

Imagine asking a librarian "What was happening in Los Angeles in the Summer of 1989?" and that person fetching you back a stack of history textbooks, a stack of Sci-Fi screenplays, a stack of regional newspapers, and a stack of Iron-Man comic books all given equal weight? Imagine hearing the plot of the Terminator and Escape from LA intercut with local elections and the Loma Prieta earthquake.

That's modern LLMs in a nutshell.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (5 children)

You might just love Blind Sight. Here, they're trying to decide if an alien life form is sentient or a Chinese Room:

"Tell me more about your cousins," Rorschach sent.

"Our cousins lie about the family tree," Sascha replied, "with nieces and nephews and Neandertals. We do not like annoying cousins."

"We'd like to know about this tree."

Sascha muted the channel and gave us a look that said Could it be any more obvious? "It couldn't have parsed that. There were three linguistic ambiguities in there. It just ignored them."

"Well, it asked for clarification," Bates pointed out.

"It asked a follow-up question. Different thing entirely."

Bates was still out of the loop. Szpindel was starting to get it, though.. .

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[–] REDACTED@infosec.pub 25 points 2 days ago (1 children)

There are different types of Artificial intelligences. Counter-Strike 1.6 bots, by definition, were AI. They even used deep learning to figure out new maps.

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[–] BarrelAgedBoredom@lemm.ee 25 points 2 days ago (3 children)

It's marketed like its AGI, so we should treat it like AGI to show that it isn't AGI. Lots of people buy the bullshit

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[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 days ago

then continue to shill it for use cases it wasn't made for either

The only thing it was made for is "spicy autocomplete".

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[–] besselj@lemmy.ca 57 points 2 days ago (3 children)
[–] burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago (1 children)

teamwork makes the teamwork makes the teamwork makes the teamwork makes the teamwork makes the teamwork makes the teamwork makes the

[–] Emi@ani.social 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The end is never the end The end is never the end The end is never the end The end is never the end The end is never the end The end is never the end The end is never the end The end is never the end

[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 9 points 2 days ago

Ah a fellow stanley parable enjoyer, love to see it!

*the end is never the end is never the end

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[–] UrPartnerInCrime@sh.itjust.works 31 points 1 day ago (10 children)
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[–] qx128@lemmy.world 28 points 2 days ago (4 children)

I really like checking these myself to make sure it’s true. I WAS NOT DISAPPOINTED!

(Total Rs is 8. But the LOGIC ChatGPT pulls out is ……. remarkable!)

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[–] Zacryon@feddit.org 24 points 2 days ago (1 children)

"Let me know if you'd like help counting letters in any other fun words!"

Oh well, these newish calls for engagement sure take on ridiculous extents sometimes.

[–] filcuk@lemmy.zip 17 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I want an option to select Marvin the paranoid android mood: "there's your answer, now if you could leave me to wallow in self-pitty"

Here I am, emissions the size of a small country, and they ask me to count letters...

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[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 28 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Now ask how many asses there are in assassinations

[–] notdoingshittoday@lemmy.zip 62 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 12 points 2 days ago

Man AI is ass at this

*laugh track*

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 days ago (13 children)

ohh god, I never through to ask reasoning models,

DeepSeekR17b was gold too

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[–] Rin@lemm.ee 14 points 2 days ago

It works if you use a reasoning model... but yeah, still ass

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[–] LanguageIsCool@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago

How many times do I have to spell it out for you chargpt? S-T-R-A-R-W-B-E-R-R-Y-R

[–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 16 points 2 days ago

We are fecking doomed!

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I asked it how many Ts are in names of presidents since 2000. It said 4 and stated that "Obama" contains 1 T.

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[–] MrLLM@ani.social 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

We gotta raise the bar, so they keep struggling to make it β€œbetter”

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My attempt

0000000000000000
0000011111000000
0000111111111000
0000111111100000
0001111111111000
0001111111111100
0001111111111000
0000011111110000
0000111111000000
0001111111100000
0001111111100000
0001111111100000
0001111111100000
0000111111000000
0000011110000000
0000011110000000

Btw, I refuse to give my money to AI bros, so I don’t have the β€œlatest and greatest”

[–] ipitco@lemmy.super.ynh.fr 24 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Tested on ChatGPT o4-mini-high

It sent me this

0 0 0 1 1 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
0 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0
0 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
0 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 0
0 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 0 0 0 0
0 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 0
0 0 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0
0 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
0 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 0
1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 0 0 0 0
1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 0 0 0 0
1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 0 0 0 0
1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 0 0 0 0
0 0 1 1 1 0 0 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0
0 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 0
1 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 1 1 1 1 0 0 0 0

I asked it to remove the spaces


0001111100000000
0011111111000000
0011111110000000
0111111111100000
0111111111110000
0011111111100000
0001111111000000
0011111100000000
0111111111100000
1111111111110000
1111111111110000
1111111111110000
1111111111110000
0011100111000000
0111000011100000
1111000011110000

I guess I just murdered a bunch of trees and killed a random dude with the water it used, but it looks good

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[–] loomy@lemy.lol 9 points 2 days ago (4 children)
[–] cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.com 50 points 2 days ago (2 children)

It used to reply 2 until this new upgrade. But now after 14 min the new update give you the right answer

[–] loomy@lemy.lol 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

I'm not involved in LLM, but apparently the way it works is that the sentence is broken into words and each word has assigned unique number and that's how the information is stored. So LLM never sees the actual word.

Adding to this, each word and words around it are given a statistical percentage. In other words, what are the odds that word 1 and word 2 follow each other? You scale that out for each word in a sentence and you can see that LLMs are just huge math equations that put words together based on their statistical probability.

This is key because, I can't emphasize this enough, AI does not think. We (humans) anamorphize them, giving them human characteristics when they are little more than number crunchers.

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[–] LMurch@thelemmy.club 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

AI is amazing, we're so fucked.

/s

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[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Deep reasoning is not needed to count to 3.

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