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[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 93 points 2 days ago (18 children)

The "chemtrail" conspiracy is particularly stupid. Like, you've got to put effort into your own duncefuckery to make the moronic leaps necessary.

"Jetliners are spraying mind control juice"

Uh huh, so, where on the jetliner is it stored? The belly is full of avionics and baggage compartment, the passenger compartment is full of seats, the wings are full of fuel, the tail has maybe a little void space, but enough to crop dust entire time zones? Can you show me any evidence of a jet aircraft equipped with such a dispersion system?

Oh they're flying special flights just for this? Okay, can you show me such a flight that obviously isn't what it says it is? There hasn't been a single air crew, maintenance tech, parts supplier, chemical plant janitor, etc. come forward about any of this?

Oh it's mixed straight into the fuel! Okay, so the Vote For Obama juice still works after spending hours to days dissolved in kerosene and PRIST, and then burned in a jet engine. Again, nobody anywhere in the fuel supply infrastructure has said anything about this. There hasn't been a single Youtube video or Reddit thread about "what are my bosses pumping into the jet fuel?"

I guess they've also paid off all the chemical labs that analyze fuel, oil and other fluid samples. Because that's a thing, aircraft mechanics take samples of engine oil and such and send them to labs for gas chromatography. It's kinda cool, they'll send you a report that says "We're seeing elevated levels of tin and copper consistent with accelerated wear of the intake valve bushings." Nobody has gotten a report back from a lab like that talking about exotic molecules ?

Why would you bother using jet airliners for this that fly extremely high? Some of the particles dispersed would outright NEVER land, some of them will drift hundreds if not thousands of miles before coming to rest in the ocean or a desert. Why not mix the Vote For Obama juice into diesel fuel to be burned by semi-trucks, down near the ground usually where you can find people? Or into automotive gasoline? Surely you could use much less of the chemical that way because it's being burned so close to people.

Maybe that's why Big They are so fucking keen to keep Republicans driving big gas guzzling micropenis trucks around? So that Republican areas get basted with Vote For Obama juice.

Oh, also: There's tetraethyl lead in aviation gasoline. Added as an octane booster and anti-knock additive, it's a POTENT neurotoxin that makes people stupid and asocial. The fuel pumps have a big sign on them saying as much. It shows up in those chromatography tests of engine oil...and in fact you can see it. A bucket of used aviation piston engine oil has a dull metallic sheen on the surface from the lead that didn't make it out of the engine. It's not burned in the quantities that we burn jet fuel, but piston-powered planes do fly lower and closer to civilization in most cases.

But you can't care about any of that, you've got third generation fetal alcohol syndrome so you're just scared of the lines in the sky.

[–] XeroxCool@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Truck exhaust blows away. They can't see it anymore. Contrails linger for a while. They can see that.

They can see planes. They can't see inside planes. Therefore, they can imagine anything they want inside because they can't verify it themselves.

The things they can't see anymore are gone. The things they can't see into contain the worst possible scenario.

And that litter box in schools things for the kid identifying as a cat? The story is ALWAYS about someone else's schools. They can picture a different school. They can imagine the worst scenario in there.

This whole political ideology is an exercise in failed object permanence.

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[–] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 12 points 2 days ago

"We already knew that. The microchips are in on the lead in the fuel. The lead protects the chips from burning up in the engine. Why do you think they put metal in a fuel, huh?"

*Conspiracy theory shortcut happens *

[–] gramie@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Just today I learned that the fuel Cessnas use has lead in it, because the engines were developed when lead was in all gasoline and they have not found it worthwhile to certify all of those tens or hundreds of thousands of planes with new engines.

In fact, I was at a fly-in today and there were several Cessnas that were 60 and 70 years old. no unleaded fuel, and no added ethanol, either.

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 days ago (2 children)

So in the specific case of Cessnas, the first Cessna 172 to require leaded fuel was built in 1977. That was the year they switched from a 6 cylinder Continental O-300 engine to that goddamn 4 cylinder Lycoming O-320 H2AD engine. Bigger displacement, two fewer cylinders, more compression, required leaded fuel.

I gave flight instruction in a new built light sport aircraft equipped with a Rotax 912 engine. Instead of Lycoming and Continental's 1930's era tech, BRP-Rotax's aircraft engines are basically 1980's motorcycle engines. Water cooled, Nikasil cylinder linings, electronic ignition, constant velocity carburetors or EFI, gear reduction, and they run absolutely fantastic on regular automotive gasoline. No lead.

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[–] burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

dont listen to this guy. they're in on it!

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[–] selkiesidhe@lemm.ee 70 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Without even looking, lemme guess on which states.

Are they the shit holes with low education rates and high rates of rampant stupidity who suckle the teat of all the blue states paying for them but then complain about it?

[–] kokesh@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Also states with very shallow gene pool...

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 7 points 1 day ago

shallow gene pool.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (5 children)

One of the states is Florida, which is ranked #1 in the U.S. for higher education.

Louisiana and Tennessee I expect it from... But Desantis has done a number on Florida.

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[–] BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago

IDK which states either. But I'd venture a guess, that sorting states by percentage of MAGA voters, would have the 8 states in the top 10.

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[–] TinyLittlePuni@lemmy.world 43 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Do that many people not realise what condensation is?

You vastly overestimate the US education system as a whole.

"Condensation can only form on glass", while not in a conversation about contrails this is a response I got from an adult human who graduated high school. He was standing 3 feet away from a steel pipe covered in condensation and dripping onto the floor.

[–] Undearius@lemmy.ca 42 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Wait, I thought it was the government that was putting the chemicals in the trails in the first place, and now their making their own actions illegal?

[–] minnow@lemmy.world 32 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Well, that's the federal government and these are state governments. Of course not THIS federal government, they mean the other federal government, the shadow government. You know the one that disobeys laws, kills millions of people for financial gain, covers up the pedofilia and drug problems of their membership, ignores the Constitution, and is trying to change the world for their own benefit? Well not that one, the other one that tries to keeps everything functioning, root out corruption, and write rules to try and protect people. THAT shadow government. It's evil dontchaknow and these new laws will definitely show them that the states won't stand for it any more!

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 6 points 2 days ago

*offer not valid in blue states, like "The People's Gay-public of Drugifornia"

[–] boydster@sh.itjust.works 29 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Florida, Tennessee, and Louisiana are named for working to outlaw chemtrails in the article. Articles like this should be required to list things they have already indicated exist in a small, closed set like this. I want a list of states! Or at least their abbreviations.

[–] ragingHungryPanda@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 days ago

I freaking knew Louisiana would be in it

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 28 points 1 day ago

Stop fucking flying so much then. You could always put those planes on the ground, on tracks. Imagine that.

[–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

… this article is kinda shit.

Says 8 states but doesn’t tell you which ones, just that Tennessee and Florida are 2 of them.

Says 8, tells us 2.

WHO ELSE AM I SUPPOSED TO POINT AT AND LAUGH???

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[–] throwawayacc0430@sh.itjust.works 25 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Quick, somebody tell these politicians about a highly addicting and dangerous chemical known as Dihydrogen monoxide with a kill rate of 100%. Ban DHMO! Save America!

~/s~

[–] neumast@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

Yes, every terrorist in the history of mankind consumed DHMO! Ban this stuff immediately! ~/s~

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[–] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 19 points 1 day ago

Bigfoot is not allowed at Thanksgiving. Him and frankenstein's monster are still beefing.

[–] RedditIsDeddit@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago (8 children)
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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 18 points 1 day ago

Water is a chemical and crop dusters do actually dump other substances from aircraft. So, in a way, chemtrails are real. Just not in the way the conspiracy dumbasses think.

[–] BombOmOm@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago (2 children)

At least eight states, including Florida and Tennessee, have now introduced ... legislation to prohibit “geo-engineering” or “weather modification”

So, nothing to do with chemtrails and specifically addresses geo-engineering and weather modification. Cloud seeding is a thing and dispersing particulates to reflect sunlight has also been much discussed. These states simply don't want it happening in their state.

[–] remotelove@lemmy.ca 27 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

"Fesi testified on the Senate floor April 28 during debate over his bill that he believes “certain agencies within the federal government are doing cloud seeding and geoengineering.” In an interview Friday, the senator was asked what evidence he had to support his claims.

“Look up in our sky,” Fesi answered.

In an interview, Fesi later said he sees “just tons and tons of cloud seeding” above his backyard and described it as “all of the stripes across the skies.”

https://lailluminator.com/2025/05/19/weather-modification-bills/

These bills are fueled by conspiracy theories and idiocy.

[–] XeroxCool@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

This is, unfortunately, the same observation I've made in all the chemtrail-beleiving people I know. I zig in discussion, they zag, I realize they're taking small-scale cloud seeding operations as proof of both contrails being chemtrails and, often enough, humans fueling hurricanes for the leftist agenda. These people also tend to deny human ability to affect the planet's climate. The underlying logical interpretation of these states' bills is exactly why they're upheld, meanwhile, their constituents are still thinking about contrails.

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[–] ansiz@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

If it wasn't so sad it'd be hilarious that all these states are banning imaginary ways to control the weather while at the same time gutting the EPA and air population controls, so real ways to influence the weather.

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (2 children)

We live in a post-reality political climate.

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[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Those 8 states are a big contributor to the current shitshow

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 13 points 1 day ago

And it's not the onion.

[–] yarr@feddit.nl 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

That reminds me of my favorite rock that prevents tiger attacks. I've had it with me for years and it works perfectly. Yet, whenever I bring it up, people make fun of me.

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[–] TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee 12 points 1 day ago

All forms of condensation must be exterminated!

Anyway, the reason they want to push bullshit laws is that bullshit laws can be used to punished whomever they like precisely because they are not founded in reality.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

As if something being real or not has ever mattered with regards to republicans trying to generate panic over a thing

[–] JayDee@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 2 days ago

This could likely lead to a period of no planes flying over these states, since airlines wouldn't want to face whatever fines are stated in these bills, yeah? If any of these pass, it's inevitable that they'll either be ignored or backpedalled on in the future. I imagine they're mostly just virtue signalling and have no intention of actually passing these laws.

[–] blimthepixie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 days ago

They going to outlaw dihydrogen monoxide next?

[–] SnarkoPolo@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Are they also going to make witchcraft a felony?

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[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 day ago

So what you're saying is, the law's already working?

[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 6 points 2 days ago

You get the government you deserve.

[–] marius@feddit.org 6 points 2 days ago

At least eight states, including Florida and Tennessee, have now introduced chemtrail-coded legislation to prohibit “geo-engineering” or “weather modification”.

Happy to hear we can keep the chemtrails for mind control going

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