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[–] Whelks_chance@lemmy.world 89 points 16 hours ago (4 children)
[–] 14th_cylon@lemm.ee 54 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Just be happy that the jpg is not embedded in docx

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 31 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Itself embedded in an auto extractable zip executable.

[–] kurcatovium@lemm.ee 5 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Archived once more in RAR, just for sure.

[–] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 8 points 10 hours ago

And then tar.bz2 on top so that no basic users of sidewalks can ever open it.

[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 23 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

ikr

svg, lossless webp, or png are way better options for an image of text

[–] exu@feditown.com 7 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

JPEG XL would be the true future format, unfortunately Google killed it

[–] SpicyToaster420@sopuli.xyz 5 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

It wouldn’t be meme-worthy were it lossless.

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[–] Damage@feddit.it 4 points 8 hours ago

Because fuck blind people, that's why

[–] roofuskit@lemmy.world 77 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (7 children)

After a month and a half downtime all the users will have moved on to other instances. This is essentially a death sentence for the instance and its communities.

[–] TrackShovel@lemmy.today 39 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

You underestimate the userbase. I made a temp account in the mean time, but we are a hyper tight knit community. We will probably lose accounts - no question - but the core userbase will return

[–] akrenion@lemmy.cafe 11 points 8 hours ago

The local communities are such a great mix of uplifting and informative posts that I am sure to return.

[–] AnarchistArtificer@lemmy.world 7 points 7 hours ago

I agree. I replied to Kris elsewhere saying this, but I am super glad to have been a part of this instance because it feels like a nice balance of being large enough to be robust and diverse, but small enough to have a distinctive culture. I don't often interact with the communities that were on the instance, but I always enjoy seeing my peers crop up in the comments of various posts — it's one of my favourite parts of Lemmy being federated (db0 is another example of an instance that has such a distinctive vibe that seeing it as someone's instance is often useful metadata that affects how I parse their comment)

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[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 18 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

You may underestimate user dedication. I love my instance and totally would come back after a few months away temporarily.

You got me on the communities though.

Fediverse is designed to handle servers with less than stellar reliability.

[–] AccountMaker@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 6 hours ago

Idk, quite a few (me included) made alt accounts for the time being, and we'll return when it becomes possible, especially if we really do migrate to piefed.

[–] Kris@feddit.org 9 points 12 hours ago

Lets see. I think a relaunch on Piefed might interest some people to come back, and most slrpnk communities are rather niche and will probably stay. /c/climate might move though.

[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 6 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (2 children)

I think the migration to Piefed would be worse. Piefed is great, but needs better App support for Lemmy users to migrate. A merge of the Thunder fork into main Thunder would get the ball rolling.

Tag @Kris@feddit.org

[–] Kris@feddit.org 10 points 12 hours ago (7 children)

I think now that Piefed has an API for apps, we will see some of them adding support soon. Overall I think the benefits of a Piefed migration outweight the disadvantages, but it remains to be seen if it is doable.

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[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 38 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Assuming slrpnk stands for solar punk - that produces funny little theories in my mind about the server location.

[–] Zombie@feddit.uk 43 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Their servers are located in Portugal I believe and do indeed run on solar power! They gave details of their set up on their wiki page but... that was on the server that's gone down so... have a read in July I guess?

[–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 38 points 16 hours ago

it's on archive.org

https://web.archive.org/web/20240223204706/https://wiki.f-hub.org/books/slrpnknet/page/server-hosting

Server hosting

This is a work in progress
Slrpnk.net is hosted by F-hub.org, a volunteer driven and non-commercial effort to host federated community services in a resource efficient and ethical way. F-hub.org grew out of a community of open-source game developers (freegamedev.net) that has existed since the early 2000s.

All the servers are operated and maintained (as a hobby) by one of the founding members and are currently located on the Azores in Portugal. Connectivity is provided through a dedicated high-speed fibreglass connection.
Hardware

The F-hub.org servers are based on second-hand consumer PC and data-centre hardware, but optimized for low energy consumption. Battery backup power is provided and data is stored with triple redundancy (off-site backups are still a work in progress). Electricity is currently provided by the utility grid (about 60% green-energy, mostly from a geothermal power-plant) but it is a work in progress to upgrade to a on-site solar PV system for near 100% renewable power.

Slrpnk.net itself currently runs on a dedicated 6th gen Intel CPU server with 8 threads, 16GB RAM and SATA SSD storage in raid configuration. Image uploads are stored on a large HDD raid array. All data is snapshotted and transferred for backup to a second shared server on daily basis.
External services

Given how difficult it is to have outgoing email accepted by the large email providers, all emails are currently routed through an external SMTP server hosted by OVH in France (same as the domain registration and DNS routing).

There are backup plans to move the servers to a co-location data-center owned by Altice, should this be required for scaling. However, monthly rent of rack-space is quite costly (starts at around 300€/month), thus this will require a substantial regular donation base to be possible.

[–] technohippie@piefed.social 28 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I think they're located in the Azores, and yes, running their own servers on solar (of course) and other renewable energy. Coolest instance out there.

[–] madjo@feddit.nl 20 points 16 hours ago (1 children)
[–] PirateFrog@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 16 hours ago

We will, promise! :D

[–] pixeltree@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Lol in my head it stands for slurp nick

[–] CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 8 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

It's clearly "slurp nook," that nook where you can go to slurp soup as loudly as you want without being judged.

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[–] underline960@sh.itjust.works 23 points 11 hours ago
[–] TrackShovel@lemmy.today 16 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Thank you so much for the update - I hadn't had access for about a week and was getting worried. Couldn't reach them on XMPP either.

[–] Kris@feddit.org 17 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

Yeah, the xmpp server is down too. That is something that bugs me quite a bit and I will probably move that one to an external small VPS to retain a more secure backup communication channel.

[–] AnarchistArtificer@lemmy.world 6 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

(speaking as a slrpnk user): Another backup communication strategy (once things are backup) might be to designate somewhere on a non-slrpnk instance as a place where people can check for updates if things go down; when I first discovered the outage, I wasn't sure where to go to check for info/updates.

Unrelatedly, I hope that this unexpected outage isn't causing you or other admins too much stress. Whilst the extended nature of this outage is unfortunate, I respect that you're using this as an opportunity to migrate to a more robust solution. This kind of resilience focussed response is a key part of the solarpunk ethos, in my view.

Some people have said that such a long outage seems likely to kill an instance, but for my part, this community is worth waiting for — I have enjoyed having an account on this instance because it feels like the perfect blend of small enough to have a distinct culture and ethos, but is large enough to be robust and diverse.

[–] Kris@feddit.org 5 points 6 hours ago

Thanks.

Yeah at the very least this will result in some changes in the hardware setup to avoid similar situations. But of course it is impossible to forsee all possible problems.

[–] philpo@feddit.org 15 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Don't pull a feddit.de on people, alright?

[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 5 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

What exactly happened there? It was the big thing, then I didn't use it for a month or so and then it was gone.

[–] philpo@feddit.org 10 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

The admin basically ran it as a one man show with only one other admin who had very limited privileges. He then went on a "business trip" or workaction or longterm vacation - there were different stories. Anyway, the database went belly up, the other admin couldn't do a thing and none could contact the admin. There are some rumours that he wasn't who he claimed he was and actually was a Chinese national who simply returned home, but who knows that. As a matter of fact none had any meaningful contact with him for months then and it appears he did not return. (But is alive)

A Austrian NGO who amongst others does host some mastodon instances,etc. took over and now feddit.org is on a very productive, professional and transparent level.

[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 4 points 4 hours ago

Thanks for the summary! That sounds freaky!

Well, the trade-off between trusting a huge corporation or a single dude on the internet.

[–] souperk@reddthat.com 15 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (2 children)

Wondering if a volunteer could go to the physical location necessary to restore service. If it's in Athens Greece, I can make the trip.

Edit: The server is located in Azores, the flight would cost 415eur, I cannot afford that, maybe someone in Portugal could help?

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 14 points 14 hours ago (4 children)

Off topic, but in Portugal was the first time me, a Central European, ever ate a ripe Papaya. Yum! Thanks to the Azores. The shit you get in the supermarkets round here is useless. Same for mangoes, usually.

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[–] IcyToes@sh.itjust.works 12 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (2 children)

Is it in a data centre or someone's house? If the latter, would they let a stranger in?

Surely they would need a backup and replicate db to so in case of hardware failure they switch over.

Sounds like they could improve their setup.

Too much of a single point of failure.

[–] Kris@feddit.org 36 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (2 children)

Slrpnk.net admin here.

The failure seems to have been in the main firewall, if it had been the server itself we could have easily restored it on another server from the backups on another machine. But as it stands, remote access is entirely cut off.

There usually is another person with hardware access, but they are on summer holidays. This seemed like an acceptable risk at the time...

An off-site backup would have been nice of course, but due to the costs involved in running an Lemmy instance of that size on a rented server, it would have not been a great option either.

I have plans to add a KVM to the main firewall via a secondary connection, but even that might have not helped in this case. I'll know more when I have physical access again.

[–] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 5 hours ago

I've done a lot of SysAdmin and DCOps stuff in the past so, thought I'd give you some plausible suggestions (haven't dug deep into Lemmy DB stuff and DNS/Federation of the stack, so not sure all is practical).

Scenario 1 - Preserve and merge when access is restored

Setup

  • Spin up two VMs/VPS (or one that has enough grunt for two Lemmy servers). Call them robak.slrpnk.net and slrpnk.net and point DNS appropriately.
  • Pull federated content from other instances and place it on robak, set as read-only.
  • Sync important comms to (new) slrpnk.net without content.
  • Allow users to sign up, vetting as possible (all mods). Keep a list of those that are vetted (call it vetted.list). Inform all users that any non-vetted users will have their content dropped when access is restored.

Merge!

  • Once access is restored, ensure that (old) slrpnk.net is set to read-only.
  • Schedule a maintenance window (announce more time than you are likely to need).
  • During the maintenance window, put (new) slrpnk.net into R/O, or just block external access.
  • Query the db on (old) slrpnk.net for all users.
  • Subtract the vetted users from vetted.list from the list.
  • Drop all records from the resulting list of non-vetted users from (new) slrpnk.net.
  • Insert the records from vetted and new users (those without conflicts) into the DB on (old) slrpnk.net.
  • Validate that everything is working
  • Cut over DNS and spin down the new VMs/VPS.

Scenario 2 - Server is in DC or Admin able to facilitate access

  • Get a db dump/backup.
  • Spin up temporary slrpnk.net on a VM/VPS.
  • Use backup of temporary server to restore data to original, when possible.
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[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 13 points 8 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Tangent5280@lemmy.world 4 points 8 hours ago

Maybe is vacationing in United Kingdom

[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 11 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (2 children)

What is so special about piefed? I see a few communities moving there. The interface looks different from the original lemmy interface.

[–] PirateFrog@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Our sysadmin explained some technical advantages here: https://feddit.org/post/13613230/7063696

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[–] ClockworkOtter@lemmy.world 9 points 12 hours ago

I'll be back when they get back up.

[–] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 6 hours ago

That sucks.

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