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[–] Dagamant@lemmy.world 372 points 2 days ago (3 children)

You literally posted the answer to your question. Here is an expansion of the details.

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[–] Goodeye8@piefed.social 190 points 2 days ago (7 children)

I haven't read the new TOS but if this review is correct it looks like a GDPR nightmare for them. Good luck to them explaining why they need to collect all that personal data.

[–] raltoid@lemmy.world 71 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The "collected data types" in that comment seems to be copy/pasted from the privacy policy

https://www.take2games.com/privacy/en-US/

[–] avattar@lemmy.sdf.org 45 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That might be US only, where the companies have freedom to get all the customer's data and do with it as they will.

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[–] moon@lemmy.sdf.org 73 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Due to Steam's tos updates a few months ago, isn't take-two opening itself up to a massive lawsuit?

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[–] Nephalis@discuss.tchncs.de 44 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Hm... Ok. Thats crazy. Someone wants to create a new branch of income it seems.

Thats a fucking shame. Now I need to reconsider my plans to buy Borderlands4.

But how will they do it? Which information is gathered from which source? Most of my accounts only hold as little informations as possible. Also my Os knows nothing about me. My MS account neither.

On the other hand my steam 2FA need some mobile information.

[–] Fiivemacs@lemmy.ca 26 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Checkout Jump Ship? It's some weird borderlands, Star citizen, (insert other generic shooter) type game. Pretty neat, was recommended to me by a shooter fanatic friend of mine. I trust his shooting game opinion

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1757300/Jump_Ship/

[–] topherclay@lemmy.world 33 points 1 day ago (3 children)

oh cool, I can see that it's similar Borderlands by the screenshots, and I can see that it's like Star Citizen because it's not actually released yet and they're taking money for early access.

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[–] CatsGoMOW@lemmy.world 167 points 2 days ago

Doesn’t the screenshot you posted explain what’s going on?

[–] BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 165 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Don't just review bomb it

Report it to steam as SPYWARE, with the little flag icon on the product page

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[–] Ledivin@lemmy.world 111 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

That. The content of the screenshot you posted. That is what's going on.

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 94 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Pirates are winning over my empathy.

[–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 37 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They've been my best friend for years

[–] mrbubblesort@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Piracy never gave me up, never let me down

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[–] Lemjukes@lemm.ee 92 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)
  • Did the EULA change? ✅
  • Were all Take Two games automatically updated in secret and now hijack your machine with root access to spy on everything you do? ❌
  • Do Take Two games contain code to report telemetry and user information(including application/system activity) to a home server? ✅
  • Is this EULA change extraordinary and particularly egregious in comparison to others that most people have probably already agreed to? ❌(IMO)
  • Are people riled up because e a YouTube video went a little viral and now they’re all playing telephone to the point where it’s now gotten to the point of random dumdums are review booming a 13 year old game claiming it’s turned into literal spyware? ✅(again, IMO)
  • Should you be surprised by any of this if you’ve been even remotely paying attention for any period of the last 30-40 years? ❌
  • Do we need more than just angry idiots in the battle against corpatocracy? ✅

We should be done coddling the late comers at this point. Yes welcome them and accept them, but at a certain point your level of ignorance became a detriment to your community and you should be made aware of that fact.

[–] Mustakrakish@lemmy.world 114 points 1 day ago (18 children)
[–] BlindFrog@lemmy.world 54 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Precise location information? Wtf for?

[–] Lemjukes@lemm.ee 42 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Hyper Localized Advertising. Welcome to the future :(

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[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 35 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Oh honey, what's any of it for?

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[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 32 points 1 day ago (7 children)

So...if Steam is running in a Flatpak, and Borderlands is launched from Steam, how much can they even see...really?

[–] RetroGoblet79@eviltoast.org 27 points 1 day ago

They know I use Linux and that means they know too much

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[–] slaacaa@lemmy.world 68 points 1 day ago
[–] Omega_Jimes@lemmy.ca 63 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I just don't understand anticheat or copy protection on PvE games. I can understand it if you don't want to play against a cheater, but this is a cooperative shooter.

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[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 60 points 1 day ago (9 children)

🏴‍☠️ is free and without shenanigans.

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[–] Onyxonblack@lemm.ee 46 points 1 day ago (10 children)

I apparently love downvotes but here goes: All the Borderlands games (annoying childish cell-shaded skinner-box) and everything Gearbox is and has ever created it utter shit. The CEO is a garbage person, and thier dealings with Epic is Capitalist-Oink-Piggy shite! ""FUCK YOU 2K & GEARBOX, AND FUCK YOU BORDERLANDS!"

[–] red@sopuli.xyz 44 points 1 day ago (10 children)

Apart from the politics, the Borderlands games themselves are hardly utter shit for the most part.

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[–] REDACTED@infosec.pub 46 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I sometimes wonder what will happen when EAC, that has root access to millions of PCs, gets compromised or has grunty employee and pushes malicious update

[–] seralth@lemmy.world 32 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

Same thing that happened to genshin when it's anti cheats got compromised I would guess. Not a lot and everyone ends up not caring.

Because normal people do not give a single fuck about the technical aspect of data privacy.

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[–] DrGrout@lemmynsfw.com 42 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Take-Two Interactive Software, Inc. Owns Rockstar Games, Zynga and 2K. So if that's all their games, it includes at least these: Bioshock series, Borderlands series, Civilization series, Grand Theft Auto series, Mafia series, Max Payne series, NBA 2K series, PGA Tour 2K series, Red Dead series, WWE 2K series and XCOM series.

Amazing stuff!

[–] damdy@lemm.ee 23 points 1 day ago (2 children)

That's just a list of games that used to be good and now suck.

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[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 33 points 2 days ago

A government that cares for is people would ban this shit and procecute any company trying to find ways around it.

[–] EnsignPacts@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I checked the Steam depots. It seems the game files haven’t been updated since 2022. All that seems to have changed is some license agreement in February. Seems to be a thing across take two games, and not specific to borderlands 2.

Basically nothing has changed in real terms for this game. Maybe borderlands 4 might have draconian DRM, who knows.

[–] tomi000@lemmy.world 33 points 1 day ago (2 children)

They can drop updates anytime after they made sure to have you accept the spyware.

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[–] LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Yikes. Is the review in the screenshot true? They got root anticheat? Or rootkit data harvesting?

[–] Diurnambule@jlai.lu 27 points 1 day ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

He said they added a kernel level anticheat in the TOS which is true. But they seem to have not included it in the game yet. But they tell that by possedong the game you allow them to. Edit : typo but can't correct "possedong" now

[–] wetbeardhairs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 1 day ago (4 children)

possedong

I'd like to know how your autocorrect learned this word

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[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 19 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

the game's store page doesn't mention that it requires root access, like it does for some other games. am i missing something?

edit: the words "root" and "level" (ctrl+f'd each one separately) don't appear anywhere in the EULA. "access" shows up in a couple spots that definitely are NOT talking about root level access. i'm all about outrage over enshittification, but so far this sounds like bullshit

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[–] W3dd1e@lemmy.zip 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Is this because Embracer sold Borderlands to Take-Two last year?

[–] zecg@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago

It's because Take Two came out with a fuck-you-in-the-ass EULA for all their games. I actually look forward to boycotting someone, there's too much free and discounted shit everywhere

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