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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 122 points 3 days ago (1 children)

“I’m being told the family is being processed for expedited removal, which allows rapid deportation without a hearing before an immigration court/judge,” he wrote on X.

If some groups don't get hearings, there's no way to prove you're not in that group.

[–] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 52 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Correct. If anyone can be denied due process, then anyone can be denied due process.

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 23 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Ted Cruz and Elon Musk are immigrants, are they not?

[–] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

But they're Republicans, rules don't apply

Rich republicans at that

[–] socsa@piefed.social 110 points 3 days ago (1 children)

This story is fucking wild. They cancelled the visa and then immediately arrested them. Not deported, not even given time to buy a ticket out of the country. Just declared illegal and put in prison for something a relative did.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 36 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Nobody remembers this, but in the run up to the election, I was telling all the "Genocide Joe" folks that if Trump gets elected, he will not only advance the genocide in Gaza, he will bring the worst Israeli policies here...

Yeah... about that...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_demolition_of_Palestinian_property

"the IDF started employing a tactic of surrounding such houses, calling on the occupants (civilian and militant) to exit, and demolishing the house on top of the militants that do not surrender. This tactic, called nohal sir lachatz (Hebrew: נוהל סיר לחץ, lit. 'pressure pot'), is now used whenever feasible (i.e., non-multi rise building that is separated from other houses)."

tl;dr - When Israel identifies a suicide bomber, they surround the house of that persons family and bulldoze it to the ground.

[–] FelixCress@lemmy.world 105 points 3 days ago (1 children)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sippenhaft

Sippenhaft or Sippenhaftung is a German term for the idea that a family or clan shares the responsibility for a crime or act committed by one of its members, justifying collective punishment. (...) It was adopted by Nazi Germany to justify the punishment of kin (relatives, spouse) for the offence of a family member.

[–] brendansimms@lemmy.world 30 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

add to the list of parallels to Germany in the 30's: (1) RFK implementing our own version of Aktion 74 (nazis ''forced euthanasia" of 'undesirables' including the disabled and sickly; the US version simply removes healthcare and obfuscates medical science). (2) The German 'Law of preventing overcrowding of universities' which sought to remove all undesirables from the higher education system - focused on Jewish people but also foreigners in general, and removal of those not party-aligned; The US version is starting by banning Harvard from enrolling foreign students and forcing schools to make lists of 'suspect' students, mainly Chinese students and pro-Palestine students

[–] sepi@piefed.social 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Apologies for nit-picking, but it's Aktion T4

[–] brendansimms@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

Nit picking appreciated! I can’t believe I’ve been reading it and seeing ‘7’ instead of ‘T’

[–] ryedaft@sh.itjust.works 20 points 3 days ago (2 children)

But does he have citizenship, does his wife / children? No real details here.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 31 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Doesn’t matter, does it?

[–] not_that_guy05@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

What do you mean it doesn't matter? Like it doesn't matter because the Trump regime is going to deported without due process, or it doesn't matter because they are relatives of a person that did crimes?

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 31 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I mean they’re going to disappear whoever they want with zero consequences and no recourse for their victims. Whether or not any of these people are citizens or legal residents is irrelevant.

[–] not_that_guy05@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] Nougat@fedia.io 16 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Sometimes I forget that my tone of voice doesn’t necessarily translate into text. I appreciate your asking for clarification.

[–] not_that_guy05@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yup no problem. It happens. Misunderstanding.

[–] underwire212@lemm.ee 3 points 3 days ago

Now kiss you two

[–] ryedaft@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 days ago

Well, if you're on a visa that can be cancelled for any number of reasons. And there's never a judge involved in that.

[–] cecilkorik@lemmy.ca 29 points 3 days ago

That's the fun part. No due process means no answers to those questions or any other details are needed anymore. Detention is now arbitrary, deportation is arbitrary, and crime is arbitrary. If you're not either appalled or terrified or both, you're not paying attention.

[–] wiLD0@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I wouldn’t be surprised if the wife and children lose their lives wherever they’re deported.

[–] LemmyFeed@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 days ago

Or just get killed here with a fabricated story of their deportation.