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[–] hedhoncho@lemm.ee 1 points 4 weeks ago

A classic burger is delicious! Just watch The Menu

[–] johnlobo@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

because not every country produce beef like you westerner. and not everyone eat beef everyday.

go make your government ban beef like you ban palm oil if you really care about earth.

[–] 3volver@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

go make your government ban beef

I would get them to end all subsidies for the beef industry if I could. Unfortunately I'm not in control of that, all I can do is bring up discussion, and I got you to comment, so I succeeded.

[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

So you did nothing that won't get lost in the maelstrom of the internet...congrats.

[–] FunnyUsername@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Cigarette smokers must really baffle you too

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[–] Ceedoestrees@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Where I live the beef is local and cheap. I'm not able to obtain enough protein without meat, as confirmed by a doctor and a nutritionist when I tried to go vegetarian. With food costs so high it's cheaper to buy cow than anything else, but when I have the money I opt for fish or turkey. I looked into hunting but it's prohibitively expensive for me with permits, tags, guns, licenses, days off and transportation. I tried fishing for myself as well, but whenever I get time to do it, there are warnings about eating fish in the area. When there aren't I never catch anything big enough to legally be allowed to keep. I'd like to get chickens if/when local government ever lifts the bylaws preventing it.

[–] SmoothOperator@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm not able to obtain enough protein without meat

How does that work? Isn't egg white pure protein? Surely eating a pile of boiled eggs would give you the same amount of protein as a steak, not counting stuff like cheese and legumes.

[–] Ceedoestrees@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh gee I didn't try eggs or dairy in the months I felt like shit after going veggie, and neither the doctor nor nutritionist suggested that either. You solved all my dietary needs and I can give up meat now after years of trying to figure out the most sustainable diet I can manage.

[–] SmoothOperator@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sorry, I was trying to ask a genuine question, I didn't mean to come across in a negative way.

I'd still be very interested in the answer.

[–] Ceedoestrees@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Sorry about that, it's the internet. I'm not a doctor, but it was explained to me that proteins from different sources are not all the same and, while I can process protein from a variety of foods, I don't do it as efficiently as with muscle proteins. The nutritionist I spoke to - who was a vegan and a vegan activist - said people like me need about 1-2 chicken breasts per week. It's not uncommon, a lot of people who try to go veggie and can't hack it just go back to meat without trying to figure out why they felt sick and tired. Other people have said it's genetic based on your ancestors, but I haven't seen a lot of evidence to support that. Other sources point to evidence you can alter the way your body processes things by following specific diet plans, but I'm not prepared to feel that shitty again to figure it out.

[–] negativeyoda@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I and others are over here with soy, egg and gluten allergies that restrict pretty heavily what I can eat. But go off since you have it all figured out, king.

[–] Sizzler@slrpnk.net -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You know who else has restrictions on their food? Vegans. You'd have thought you'd be more sympathetic, but nah, you're negativeyoda.

[–] negativeyoda@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

By choice, dingus.

I don't have that option. Big Ole difference. Maybe give everyone Lyme disease so they develop red meat allergies and we can talk

Okay. You want me to double down? I won't eat at vegan places most of the time. Here's the thing: vegetables are delicious. So why?

Vegans will support a vegan place no matter what and will talk it up as being amazing even if it sucks. I've been burned being told, "oh. That place is so good" and it's just a matter of vegans circling the wagons and propping up a place that serves a lazy impossible burger with fake plastic cheese on it. Y'all ain't accountable and it makes it difficult taking vegan food seriously. No wonder y'all's food has an inferiority complex

[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Same reason we use electricity despite not being 100% green energy and thus being even worse for the earth?

If you actually wanna guilt this question then the fuck are you doing using your coal and gas powered electricity to do it?

There is no ethical consumption under capitalism, because the capitalists have seen to it that you will never be permitted to make an ethical choice that would dare compete with what they expect you to choose.

Being a moralizing prick doesn't send any message, what gets people to change is making that change easy, that's why instead of being terminally online fuckwads, british vegangelists spread the good news by hosting free kitchens, volunteering to take people grocery shopping on their own pound, teaching vegan cooking classes, and all other sorts of actually addressing literally any of the actual concerns people have about going vegan instead of being a condescending snob about it.

[–] Chemo@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 3 months ago

If you actually wanna guilt this

Being a moralizing prick

All OP did was stating a simple fact. If you feel the need to outrage over science, then the problem is certainly not OP.

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[–] thezeesystem@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (7 children)

The real question is, why should we try to not eat beef for the environment, when corporations make 90% of all pollution in the world.

Maybe focus on the 90% of the problem and not the individual people who but meat?

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[–] Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

1 the amount of beef I eat is not a major contributer to the problem. No matter how hard I try. The actual major contributors what to distract people by telling them that they can make the difference. They can't. 2 I don't like plants... 3 the way the grow plants for food is also terrible for earth

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The major contributors only sell what people buy. They won't stop so long as there's money to be made. And most plants grown for food go to feed animals.

You don't like plants because you're a big baby.

So yeah, your arguments suck.

[–] crt0o@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Why is killing people wrong, but ok in war? Why do we still kill animals even though we know it's wrong? Why is killing wrong in the first place? I bet you can't find a single rational reason. That is because ethics isn't based on reason, but instead on emotion. Given that, I don't find it very surprising that it's often very hypocritical.

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