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Six Nobel laureate economists said a massive budget bill passed by House lawmakers last month and backed by Trump would weaken key safety-net programs while greatly lifting the federal debt.

The tax and spending package, which Republicans have dubbed the "one big beautiful bill," would hurt millions of Americans by slashing Medicaid and food stamps, the economists wrote in a June 2 letter on behalf of the Economic Policy Institute, a left-leaning think tank.

"Even with the safety net cuts, the House bill leads to public debt rising by over $3 trillion in coming years (and over $5 trillion over the next decade if provisions are made permanent rather than phasing out)," the economists state. "The higher debt and deficits will put noticeable upward pressure on both inflation and interest rates in coming years."

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[–] Goodmorningsunshine@lemmy.world 65 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Didn't we already do this song and dance first time around? Trump wants to give all the rich people more money, economists say it will hurt the poor and raise the debt, Republicans pass it, the country and its people apart from the rich are worse off. We all know this passes and the effects and purpose of it. No one's shocked Pikachu.

[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 35 points 2 days ago

The difference now is that our debt is so high that the whole world is watching and downgrading our credit. Creating debt isn't necessarily a problem of you're using that debt to make things more productive. If you're using that debt to build infrastructure, improve schooling, etc... Increasing your debt to give rich people more money is wasteful spending. Those same economists that are warning about this bill are also scared that we will lose our ability to cheaply borrow money.

[–] DandomRude@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

True, but many of those morons who voted for this orange crook will probably be shocked Pikachu - until some lying scumbag comes along and tells them it was really some minority's fault or some other fairytale along those lines. It's just sad.

[–] arrow74@lemm.ee 7 points 2 days ago

Then first time? This is at least the 5th or 6th time.

Every time Republicans get a majority/the presidency they do this shit.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Here’s where they push the scam of “temporary” tax cuts.

  • last time around, Trumps tax cuts weren’t that bad for the debt because they’re temporary, they expired
  • this time around they’re not increasing the debt because they’re merely extending the existing tax cuts. No change /s
[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 47 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Republicans are debt hawks while they’re in opposition and turn on the free money spigot as soon as they’re in power.

It’s almost like they try to crash the economy for the next guys intentionally.

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

We all have two Santas in us because we’re kinky fuckers.

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 5 points 2 days ago

I wonder if that works if there aren't any "next guys" in the plan.

[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 38 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Let this be a lesson to never ever take conservatives seriously. "Nooooo, universal healthcare and trains will cost too much money, muh fiscal responsibility :(" has turned into "let's go into more debt than anyone has ever thought of to make the poor poorer and the rich richer"

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 10 points 2 days ago

Conservatives should be listened to on nothing. They have zero credibility. A toddler would make better policy decisions

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 25 points 2 days ago

Yes, but they're going to make so much money off of it! Hurt people and get richer. It's awesome!

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

There's a provision in that bill that allows Trump to be a dictator/king for life.

https://50501.chat/post/280122

Download the app "5 calls". It is ad free, and free. It will give you the phone number of your representatives and senators, as well as a script if you need it, for every issue that is currently up for vote.

Isn't that the whole point of it?

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 16 points 2 days ago

"big beautiful bill" will hurt millions of Americans and weaken the U.S. economy but there are also some downsides

[–] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 15 points 2 days ago

Add TRILLIONS to the Debt while ELIMINATING MY Healthcare? Thank GOD I can make fun of Autistic Black Kids now! OTHERWISE this would be BAD!

[–] D_C@lemm.ee 5 points 2 days ago

Wait, so the guy who bankrupted five casinos and a casino holding company doesn't know anything about budgets? How can this be!!??!?

[–] Damage@feddit.it 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Hey so... Could you guys maybe take it a bit easier with the self destruction? We still got some preparations to make here in ol' Europe...

[–] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Don't worry. You're only, like, 3 steps behind us. Just keep hating migrants for all the shit capitalism is doing to you and you can make it here too! /s

[–] Damage@feddit.it 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Eh, here in Italy we've elected literal fascists years ago and we haven't gotten as much damage done as Trump managed in months, things move slower over here.

[–] Bubbaonthebeach@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago

Republicans / Conservatives have always told their members that they are better stewards of finances and yet for the last 40-50 years they have been the ones to drive up the debt and run annual deficits while handing ever increasing amounts of money to the 1%. How they keep convincing their members that it is the left who are the problem, is a remarkable study in propaganda.

[–] Mossheart@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The title in red on the sign tells you what you need to know. It's just a

Big Beautiful Act

[–] TripleIris@lemmy.wtf 2 points 2 days ago

It's not a bug, it's a feature.

[–] thepenismightier@lemm.ee 1 points 2 days ago