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Elon Musk issued a curt rebuke of ketamine abuse allegations after a viral clip of his erratic behavior at a dinner recirculated online.

The clip—taken in March during a visit to Donald Trump’s Bedminster golf club in New Jersey—shows Musk balancing spoons at a dinner table while one of his baby mamas, Shivon Zilis, watches in silent concern.

At the time, X user and “retired army medic” Molly Ploofkins tweeted the clip with the caption, “Musk playing with his silverware while tripping on ketamine at Bedminster.”

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[–] philpo@feddit.org 316 points 5 days ago (20 children)

Tbh, his Ketamine use makes me very very happy. He should do it more often.

Why? Ketamine abuse leads to severe damage of the urinary tract system. According to various sources this is already happening - and the damage is irreversible. Patients suffering from them are unable to pee - while having a massive urge to do so (imagine a decade long UTI, with your bladder really filled to the brim but you can't pee physically). And in the end it fucks their kidneys up due to the urine backing up into it. (And no, he can't get a transplant then. As the ureter is the problem and damaged beyond repair there isn't that much that can't be done then)

Furthermore the combination of drugs he admits he takes is a prime setup for a ketamine induced persistent psychosis. Elmo is already showing massive signs of intermittent or persistent psychosis, but things can get worse - far worse for him. Because the combination he takes can sometimes lead to a chronic persistent psychosis with auditory or visual hallucinations, delirium and ongoing psychosis symptoms. In other words: He would get so batshit crazy that a normal person would either be admitted in time and for a long time or kill themselves. In his case it's more likely that his staff would make sure he doesn't kill himself and lock him away. (Kill as in "running over a highway butt naked because the Zombie cows hunt them" or "trying to stop a train by a naruto move")

When I still worked in a psychiatric hospital we gad a similar guy - actually not unintelligent,but fried his brain with a similar mixture. In the end result he needed massive loads of drugs so he wouldn't be in a constant state of panic (mostly because every shadow was a giant spider trying to kill him) but basically made him a zombie. And,as he did a few awful things in this state of terror(setting fire to the psychiatric hospital twice, push a old lady in front of a bus -she was not hurt as the bus was imaginary,too-, stabbing a kindergarten teacher in front of her class) he was with us for years in a locked/high security ward. Aftee that he left us towards a similar ward in a permanent nursing facility.

There is a good chance he won't have a nice retirement life. Which is well deserved.

[–] Ersatz86@lemmy.world 91 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Top quality post. Thank you for this shot of optimistic perspective.

Should crosspost to upliftingnews.

[–] redsand@lemmy.dbzer0.com 36 points 5 days ago (1 children)

That is not what that sub is for. This is squarely face eating leopards territory and I'm here for it.

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[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 68 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] philpo@feddit.org 14 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

A bit of added hope: Ketamine directly caused hypertension. Not for long,but for a good amount. I literally shot a patient from 130/80 to 220/120 once.

That is not very good for the vessels in his heart and brain.

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[–] lunarul@lemmy.world 67 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

You're very optimistic.

he did a few awful things in this state of terror(setting fire to the psychiatric hospital twice, push a old lady in front of a bus -she was not hurt as the bus was imaginary,too-, stabbing a kindergarten teacher in front of her class)

Scale this up for the richest man on earth and I dread what can happen.

[–] hydroptic@sopuli.xyz 39 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Yeah my main worry is that people are so unbelievably obsequious towards billionaires and reich-wing "leaders" that even an obviously psychotic one might not get them to pause and think about what the hell they're doing

[–] Ghyste@sh.itjust.works 16 points 4 days ago (2 children)

You mean like the current one?

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[–] philpo@feddit.org 19 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yeah,can happen. Or he does something so self harming (like trying to open the door of his jet midflight) that they "hide him". Most of these cases tend to be so uncoordinated,that even being superrich won't help much.

We will see. I hope you are not right - but your concern is absolutely valid.

[–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 14 points 4 days ago

Yeah I could see the jet door opening while he’s screaming ‘ITS ALL JUST A SIMULATION’

and maybe it is but at least the rest of us can live more in peace within the simulation after that.

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[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 20 points 5 days ago

So what I'm hearing is someone needs to up his dosage so the problem solves itself quicker.

[–] normanwall@lemmy.world 18 points 4 days ago (6 children)

I suspect it's been going on for years and is why he had them illegally install a bathroom next to where he slept, so he wouldn't keep waking security going to pee so frequently

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[–] dinren@discuss.online 16 points 5 days ago (3 children)

So would he have to catheter himself each time he wanted to pee or do you think he just has one in there most of the time?

[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 18 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (4 children)

Our old relative ended up with a semi permanent catheter when he had bladder issues (I think just from being 99 years old).

Had it until he died a couple years later and used to love patting his pee bag to let us know he just went. Usually at dinner.

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[–] philpo@feddit.org 17 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Difficult to say and Urology is absolutely not my subject (funny enough I am writing this in my urologist's waiting room), but a few things to consider:

  • Unlike normal urinary retention his ureter will be heavily inflamed. That can also include the Urethra(to a far lesser extent than the ureter,though) and might at some point even inflame the prostata. This makes regular catheters really uncomfortable and also hard to get in. So.... there is that.

  • Additionally frequent single use catheterization into an inflamed tissue increases the risk of infection. Additionally the user needs to keep strict hygienic standards....which addicts often can't follow. So either he has someone doing that for him or the perspective is rather uncanny. Even with that his erectile function might be impeded.

  • On the other hand a permanent catheter had its own drawbacks and I am not sure if he would accept one. Because that would mean no more children (at least not the normal way), having the bag attached permanently,etc.

  • The other option is a so called suprapubic catheter - a small surgical hole above the pubic bone with a permanent catheter placed in it. Also a nasty thing in terms of germ ingress.

Last but not least: The catheter will solve the "urine in the bladder" issue,but not the kidney issues as the backup there to a certain degree happens above the bladder - inside the ureter. It can be mitigated by putting a ureteral stent in them,but these are mighty uncomfortable and need to be replaced every few months - via endoscope. Through his dick.

So in the end: Don't do Ketamine,guys.

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[–] HEXN3T@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 4 days ago

As a substance user, I'm glad. You get what you put in. Good in? Good out. Bad in? Bad out.

Substances are the ultimate representation of karma--and the muskrat craves, and craves, and craves. Let his soul be ravaged relentlessly by hundreds of thousands of talons.

[–] BuckRowdy@lemmy.world 15 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Maybe he'll OD and this problem will finally go away. He's maybe the worst person who has ever lived.

[–] philpo@feddit.org 14 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Oh,I personally know a few even worse people - but I worked in a high security forensic mental health unit for a while. And let's not start about some people living in the mid of the last century. Ishii, Beria, a whole lot of Nazis, there are plenty to choose from.

Anyway: The bad news is: It is really really really hard to overdose on Ketamine. Unlike Fentanyl or Heroine, it does not stop the breathing of the patient unless administered in really high doses really fast

As he is likely getting his stuff from a pharmacy and not a shady dealer the chances for that are rather slim.

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[–] SnarkoPolo@lemm.ee 14 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Elmo is going to get to know Mr. Foley.

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[–] Drusas@fedia.io 138 points 5 days ago (1 children)

"silent concern?" She's rocking back and forth like she's just as high as he is.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 61 points 5 days ago

Yup. She was out of her mind in that video.

[–] Hadriscus@lemm.ee 78 points 5 days ago (1 children)

"Musk blows up"

don't play with my feelings like that

[–] SkybreakerEngineer@lemmy.world 18 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Musk blows up

...another rocket

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[–] Jerb322@lemmy.world 77 points 5 days ago (1 children)

"watches in silent concern"? She looks as high as him, to me. Rocking back and forth...

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[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 55 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (6 children)

Everyone likes to laugh at Turnip and Muskrat for being, talking and acting like idiots ... which they are ... but enough of a country voted to have this clown in office, who then selected this unelected monkey to run their country.

Who's the idiot in this scenario? The idiot doing idiot things .... or the people who made it all possible and allowed the idiots to gain power?

It's going to take a lifetime for me to look at an American as anything ressembling intelligence.

[–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 40 points 5 days ago (1 children)

They're all idiots.

People that voted for Trump are idiots.

People who didn't vote for anyone are idiots.

Dems who failed to read the room are idiots.

Republicans supporting Trump are idiots.

I think Musk is his own special class of idiot though.

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[–] negativenull@lemmy.world 32 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I'm an American, and it's going to take me a lifetime to look at America as anything resembling intelligence.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 19 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

That's the thing and something I've noticed for many years and in meeting many Americans.

The majority of Americans I've met in person were good wholesome people and most of the time I couldn't tell the difference if they were American or Canadian (unless they had a strong accent from the American south).

It's when you start talking about politics or religion that things seem to fall apart. There's a strong Christian 'identity', it's certainly not religious ... cult like but not religious.

But in the mix are good natured people with good natured ideas of politics and inclusion .... but the loudest most obnoxious ones always seem to win out.

I've done my best to not paint all Americans as selfish, ignorant, self absorbed, hateful individuals .... but in light of everything that is coming out of the US government, which should represent the ideas and attitudes of a country ... it is getting harder and harder to like America or Americans.

[–] negativenull@lemmy.world 19 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I don't blame you. I grew up here thinking that most people were generally good/decent people. I was propagandized to hell and back and grew up believing that America was as good as it got in the world. Other places (like Canada) weren't bad, but just but as great as America.

It wasn't until I left my cult-like religion (Mormonism) at age 18 that I truly started learning more accurate history and exploring other cultures that I realized how deep in the hole I was as a human. I spent 20 years thinking that America was imperfect but had the potential to be better, and to come to terms with it's thorny past. Obama being elected seemed to prove that potential.

Trump (then Trump 2.0) had destroyed that last illusion and I'm not sure what it would take to rebuild any sense of pride in my country. My entire extended family (as far as I'm aware of) are all in support of what is happening here, and it is stressing any vestige of relationship I had left after leaving their religion all those years ago.

Trust takes years to build, and a moment to lose. America has lost any trust in this moment. It'll take a lifetime to rebuild at best. My son is in for a harder life because of it and I can't help feeling guilty

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[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 14 points 5 days ago (2 children)

The idiots are the people who didn't vote

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[–] nkat2112@sh.itjust.works 40 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Nothing beats Elon Musk doing Sieg Heils, but the reminders of his other idiocies - to say nothing about the harm of being a drug addict - are really bad too.

[–] Guidy@lemmy.world 40 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The Third Reich was big into drugs too, including Hitler.

It all fits.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 16 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Nothing like meth to make you think that invading Russia was a good idea

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[–] Binky@lemmy.sdf.org 15 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Sure… we have to lose Matthew Perry, but Elon’s doing just fine.

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[–] RedditIsDeddit@lemmy.world 36 points 4 days ago (1 children)

"Resurfaces" it's been all over the internet for weeks you lazy writers.

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[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 22 points 4 days ago (2 children)
[–] crystalmerchant@lemmy.world 20 points 5 days ago (3 children)
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[–] Linktank@lemmy.today 19 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Man, fuck the daily beast. What a shit website.

[–] ThinkBeforeYouPost@lemmy.world 24 points 5 days ago (2 children)
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[–] Abrinoxus@thelemmy.club 13 points 5 days ago (4 children)

i need see this clip for science anyone has link?

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