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[–] Korne127@lemmy.world 235 points 1 week ago (8 children)

Like yeah, exactly. With the right person, you can talk for hours and hours about all kinds of stuff that interests you.

[–] Takios@discuss.tchncs.de 184 points 1 week ago (3 children)

with the right person you can also be quiet with for hours

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 27 points 1 week ago (1 children)

One of the best relationships I ever had.

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[–] Aviscii@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago

This! Silence is so much better than unnecessary and forced talking

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Absolutely, but a lot of people don't understand that you can't arrive to that point by not ever "small talking" along the way. Small-talk is how we express to each other how we feel, how we want to be talked to, what we notice around us and so on. It's a critical component to socializing. Conversations between human beings doesn't play out narratively like in media and movies, there's no "point" to conversing with someone you're close to, you're just sharing shit.

[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 68 points 1 week ago (2 children)

But also meaningless bullshit. That does not denote a bad relationship.

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 29 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Exactly. I can't remember where I heard this - it might have been a podcast like RadioLab or something else - but it was talking about how happily married, intelligent couples talk to each other .

It turns out, it's not usually super deep, intelligent conversations. The vast majority of conversations are just meaningless bullshit. Most of the time, couples aren't even really talking to each other, but they're just kind of thinking aloud. Stupid stuff like, "I swear I saw a dozen blue Volkswagens today."

It turns out that people who are comfortable with each other don't need to have deep conversations all the time. They can just relax, unwind, and be themselves.

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[–] Kacarott@aussie.zone 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The way I understand "Smalltalk" is not whether the subject matter is "serious enough" but rather whether either party actually has any interest in it, or if it is a polite nicety to avoid awkward silence.

Discussing the weather in a car ride with a coworker is smalltalk, contemplating with a friend how one might conquer the world using ant-controlling super powers is not.

[–] monotremata@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 week ago

This exactly. "Do you think free will exists" could, in fact, be small talk, if neither of you is particularly interested in the topic.

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[–] Signtist@lemm.ee 105 points 1 week ago (1 children)

My wife and I will sit in the same room for hours and never speak a word to each other. We only talk when we have something to say, and we're both happy with that relationship. My sister thinks we're crazy, but we like it quiet.

[–] Gloomy@mander.xyz 23 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

My steppairents are like this and beeing with them, at a meal table, and have nobody say anything for 20 Minutes is so fucking wired. I am getting used to it, but it's still off as fuck.

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[–] wpb@lemmy.world 70 points 1 week ago (11 children)

"Such weather we're having huh?"

Truly peak romance

[–] Zenith@lemm.ee 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (19 children)

But at least it’s a conversation you can work with “oh yeah it’s so nice we should go do X” or “yeah it’s crazy out there, we should stay in and watch a movie and snuggle” the point of small talk is to open avenues of conversation… I think people just don’t know how to have conversations anymore and chalk it up to “not liking small talk”. Observation and response is a perfectly normal way to start a conversation

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[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

Lotta folks on both sides of this conversation who have never been in a long-term relationship.

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[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 61 points 6 days ago (16 children)

No, we just stfu when we don't have anything interesting to talk about. It's not complicated.

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[–] BallShapedMan@lemmy.world 54 points 1 week ago

My wife asks how my day was "great, or good, or whatever" then I ask how her day was she usually stops talking before bedtime. Works for both of us!

[–] NONE_dc@lemmy.world 43 points 1 week ago (10 children)

When I say "I hate small talk" I actually mean "please Shut up, Im really anxious and I don't know what to respond to you other that nodding and «Thats crazy»"

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[–] DamienGramatacus@lemmy.world 41 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Asking someone you love "How was your day?" is a meaningful question. Small talk is bullshit time wasting between randos or acquaintances.

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[–] OccamsRazer@lemmy.world 40 points 6 days ago (15 children)

It's not small talk, because i actually care how my wife's day was.

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[–] FourWaveforms@lemm.ee 31 points 6 days ago (1 children)

after you get through all the asking each other stuff to get to know each other's histories etc phase, it's okay to just not talk all the time

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[–] zqwzzle@lemmy.ca 28 points 1 week ago

Silence is bliss while doing your own hobbies together.

[–] akakevbot@sh.itjust.works 24 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (5 children)

I absolutely love questions like this! My wife absolutely hates them. She often gets irritated when people ask questions about what you think.

Like when our therapist asked her "How do you think your actions contribute to your own unhappiness?"

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[–] Hadriscus@lemm.ee 23 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I do exactly this ! Hi honey how was your day ? Kids were restless ? Ok. Does that affect your stance on education through play ? is punishment sometimes advisable ? you haven't read your copy of Foucault's Discipl.... hey where are you going ?... baby ??

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[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 21 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Not spelled like that, no.

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[–] Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org 19 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Small talk is the equivalent of dogs sniffing each others ass. The topic isn't really the point, it's just a quick and easy way to gauge another person's mood and attitude towards you. It's a skill worth developing. And I say this as someone with social anxiety.

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[–] hedge_lord@lemmy.world 19 points 6 days ago

I REFRAIN FROM THE PRACTICE OF UTILIZING MINISCULE SPEECH. EACH AND EVERY INSTANCE OF MY EXPRESSION IS VAST AND VERBOSE AND MAXIMAL.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Being in a relationship means you can come home and totally info-dump unguarded about whatever weird thing you're contemplating and the person opposite you will be happy you're there and delighted that you're happy or sad with you if you're sad. It also means you do this for the other person with genuine interest. I don't call that "small talk".

[–] VitoRobles@lemmy.today 13 points 6 days ago

This is it.

My wife comes home and fires on all cylinders about her day. Then I share how much my one coworker sucks and what they did today.

Then we wonder about the heat death of the universe.

[–] RedAggroBest@lemmy.world 17 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Is or is not talking about how your days went considered small talk? I literally don't know now. I'd say it's small talk.

Small talk is a way to gauge someone's mood before going for the bigger discussions

[–] lennivelkant@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 5 days ago (2 children)

If a colleague asks me "Hi, how're you doing?" it's small talk and I'll respond something like "Oh you know, the usual." If my partner asks me "Hi, how was your day?" it's a genuine question and I will respond "That fucking dickhead at work that always plays nice and personable came around with another set of "urgent" requests and no fucking clue what he's actually asking for, whether it's possible or why I told him last week it isn't."

The difference is in how serious I take the question.

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[–] psmgx@lemmy.world 17 points 6 days ago

ITT we ask the autistic to self identify

[–] vala@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

Literally yes.

[–] akademy@lemm.ee 16 points 6 days ago (3 children)

So, you just HAVE to talk?

Do you hate silence?

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[–] match@pawb.social 16 points 1 week ago

if you're in a relationship you can just hug instead of small talk

[–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago
[–] mr_satan@lemm.ee 13 points 6 days ago (2 children)

The real answer is it doesn't matter. I feel like I have free will hence I have free will for all meaningful intents and purposes.

Neither argument can be proven and even if it's an illusion, it's strong enough to make the truth irrelevant.

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[–] zer0bitz@lemmy.world 13 points 6 days ago (5 children)

Why does the image look like AI generated? How the letters are so fucked up?

[–] Grostleton@lemm.ee 11 points 6 days ago

Took a picture of their monitor with a phone camera that uses AI image enhancement

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[–] terminhell@lemmy.world 12 points 6 days ago (4 children)

Id rather discuss that than what someone did last weekend tbh.

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[–] exu@feditown.com 12 points 1 week ago (5 children)

These kinds of philosophical questions are easily defeated by asking "does it matter though?"

[–] running_ragged@lemmy.world 35 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I don't think that defeats it at all, it just changes the direction of the conversation and is as deeply philosophical as the first. Some might say life goes on with or without free will so it doesn't matter, other say that the a societal acceptance of the absence of free will removes the burden of guilt, and could reshape society in very profound ways, so of course it matters.

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[–] saltnotsugar@lemm.ee 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Hey baby I brought home some dinner-
“Husband. Thy presence brings thoughts of philosophical questions.”
Alright. I’m just gonna eat this burrito though.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (4 children)

Alright. I’m just gonna eat this burrito though.

Is that because you are choosing to, or because of destiny?

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[–] Lazhward@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Meaningful.

The clue is in meaningful.

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