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Burn baby, burn!
That fascist f**k should have stayed the hell out of politics
Now that would be fun. If the banks forced him to sell stock for a hundred billion dollar or more, he would have to finally pay all the taxes he avoided in all those years, too. Good.
Remember, don't buy Apple products. They went back to advertising on X.
That's not the main reason to not buy apple products lol
It's a reason. And it's the contextually relevant reason.
Only in the context of your offtopic remark.
Trump's about the sign an executive order saying not purchasing a Tesla is domestic terrorism.
I think this article could be a little bit more precise with its reporting.
The Washington Post reported in April 2022 that Musk had already used more than half of his more than 170 million Tesla shares as collateral to acquire loans, and planned to do so again to borrow more money to buy Twitter, now X.
This was before a 3:1 stock split, so would represent 510 million shares today. Back then, those shares were worth $62 billion. Today, it's more than doubled. So even if he's done nothing with his debt or his shares, all the gains of the past few years would serve to give him a lot more cushion, to where he'd be safe even if the stock price plummets further, to around half of what it is today. More likely, though, he's used some of the money from selling some of the shares to pay down his debt.
Musk acquired X for $44 billion in October 2022, borrowing roughly $13 billion from several banks
Unfortunately, that $13 billion was borrowed by Twitter itself, not by Musk. If the corporation defaults on the loans, the banks can force the sale of Twitter's assets and wipe out the value of the shares (destroying the value of Musk's investment). But that's not debt that could be called and somehow jump over to Tesla share prices.
So it is true that a tanking Tesla stock price can cascade into a bankruptcy for him. But it needs to fall a lot more than where it's fallen today. Probably needs to lose another half of its value, at a minimum, maybe more, before it actually triggers a cascading failure.
yall are crazy if you think the banks are going to challenge musk now. if this happens, they'll be happy to renegotiate the terms or whatever they need to do to keep their techbro happy
Banks only care about money
Musk makes them money right now. If he starts losing them money, they'll come asking, especially if they know he's on his way down for good, like a run on the bank it'll be the early birds getting the worm
if you owe the bank $10,000, you have a problem. If you owe the bank $250,000,000,000, the bank has a problem. He's also financed by saudi and likely russia - no one will be coming for him or his money.
Fiduciary responsibility. Bankers could become personally liable. Their investors would be quick to sue.
I'm sure Musk can get all his debt covered by the same "bank" that now covers all of Trump's borrowings.
Fuck elom.