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[–] trillian@feddit.org 100 points 1 month ago (2 children)

That's not cleaning, it's polluting less

[–] matte@lemm.ee 31 points 1 month ago

My thoughts exactly. The title is almost comically misleading. But I was impressed when I saw that they dedicated an entire section of their article to actually explain that shifting to other modes of transport is several times more effective than fleet electrification.

[–] match@pawb.social -5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

that's every human endeavor

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Cleaning up pollution is a human endeavor and it reduces pollution.

[–] IndiBrony@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Humans pollute, pollution needs reducing, ergo we reduce humans. Seems logical to me.

[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 17 points 1 month ago (2 children)

tires might need rethought though

[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Okay hereβ€˜s my business idea: Tires but metal! Those metal wheels then drive on metal bars to transport groups of pods. Think of a network of rails that passengers can use to easily travel from one place to another. Itβ€˜s a closed system that barely interrupts other types of traffic and can even drastically reduce conjunctions by being very space efficient. All electric and much safer than cars too! Did I mention they can go much faster than cars on longer routes? You can even enjoy entertainment or get some work done while you travel!

[–] rustydrd@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I'm not sure if you're referring to trains/trams or genuinely suggesting that there could be a rail-based system for individual traffic (i.e., people use individual pods without restrictions on start/stop location or time). The latter seems genuinely utopian to me if it can be made to work.

[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Itβ€˜s trains. Iβ€˜m talking about an electrified rail network that we absolutely need to make the switch to a mostly green economy. I donβ€˜t think we can ever do it if we keep clinging to car infrastructure.

[–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yup, they already are the most common reason for micro plastics everywhere, so they need to be rethought as it is.

[–] bstix@feddit.dk 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Something like 9/10 of the tire dust and also wear on roads are from trucks.

Personal transport is much less. It's not negligible, but the difference between fossil or electric fueled is basically just a talking points. The weight is the cause of increasing tire dust, and modern cars are all heavier than before regardless of fuel.

[–] rustydrd@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago

This is something I noticed too. Some years ago, one of the futuristic aspects of EVs was how silent they were. Meanwhile, where I live, the newest fad seems to be to buy enormous E-SUVs, and I've noticed that I can't tell much of a difference between the conventional and electric versions of these cars in terms of noise (for small cars, the difference is substantial).

[–] kurikai@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So good rarely having to use the brakes with my nussan leaf.

Be careful though. I also barely used the brakes with my Renault Zoe. Until the complete braking system had to be replaced due to not being used. Make a hard brake once in a while (and while it's safe for you and other drivers around you).

[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Huh, and I thought electrics produced more total tire wear due to the higher weight.

https://motorandwheels.com/electric-cars-go-through-tires-faster/

apparently, the instant torque too...

[–] pastermil@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

How much more do they weight?

About that instant torque, you have got to see how some people drive their (ICE) cars.

[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)
[–] jonne@infosec.pub 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

People generally don't launch their Tesla (or whatever) every time they take off from a red light. Only a small minority does it occasionally, other times they'll just choose a more comfortable way to speed up.

EVs generally incentivise drivers to take it easy to maximise range.