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My first months on Lemmy were spent on Lemmy.world, which was the biggest instance at the time. I had no experience with Hexbear because .world had defederated that instance. I sometimes saw it being described as a "tankie" instance, but it was nothing specific.

After I moved to .zip, I came across !games@hexbear.net, which seemed to be free from anything overtly political and reminded me of r/Gamingcirclejerk, so I subscribed to it and occasionally made comments related to gaming.

Today I made multiple comments to a post about an article on the STALKER game developers having removed the Soviet symbols and the Russian audio in the remastered edition of the game. I would argue that in the thread, there were no comments from me that could be construed by a reasonable person as defensive of Nazism, fascism, or even hinting at it. For example, in one of the comments, I linked a Ukrainian law that prohibits the use of Nazi symbols, though I highly advise looking through all my ten comments as to avoid any misunderstanding or false impressions.

Conversely, one comment posted by another user dismissed Holodomor as Nazi propaganda, which I reported, but a moderator of that community just ended up calling me out for that and taking no action, followed by them banning me.

The thread containing all of my untouched posts is still available via lemmy.zip. My comments are also available for viewing via my user page. They are not available on hexbear due to the ban.

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[–] MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 6 points 2 weeks ago
[–] Album@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

There's a reason most instances are de-fed from them. Play with fire and get burned I don't know what you expected. This post makes you seem either oblivious or knowing but still complaining.

[–] Rose@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

It's not the only gaming community I'm subscribed to. It didn't stand out as being particularly problematic. If you look at its front page today, it's all about games and you won't be able to say it's done from a politicized perspective that would invite comments to the effect of "Russia good", let alone that Holodomor is a Nazi construct. Personally, I'm very open-minded and I try not to judge a book by its cover. In the thread, someone dismissed a source just because of their vibes rather than its content. I wouldn't do that.

[–] OmegaLemmy@discuss.online 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

They said Holodomor genocide is a nazi construct, in the thread itself they believe Holodomor is a result of government inefficiency and a natural disaster

[–] OmegaLemmy@discuss.online 4 points 2 weeks ago

Hmm, to them, it's like saying the American dustbowl was a genocide

[–] Album@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 weeks ago

Personally, I'm very open-minded and I try not to judge a book by its cover.

It's not just the cover, and now you know that. In fact, it's the cover that misled you.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Ukrainians have the same problem with neo-Nazis as other ex-Soviet countries.

Holodomor is a bit of a fuzzy matter, it's picking a part of the more wide scale events relating to Ukraine and calling it genocide of Ukrainian people, while genocide involves intention to wipe out an ethnic group.

This was more of Stalin's USSR treating people as expendable and hunger as acceptable when he needed the resources to build heavy industries for the military. Most of the grain producing areas of the USSR were in Ukraine and south of Russia, which is also where most of the victims were, because grain was taken by force according to planned norm and to fake reports (as it happens in such systems, administrators overreporting gains and underreporting losses).

So I somewhat feel strange when people talk of it like genocide example, but people arguing against that are usually worse, so let it be.

Anyway, the point of this comment was - those people don't even think of such things, they act purely on vibes. Most of Soviet propaganda was intended for people literate in the first-second generation, it relied on vibes even more than, say, Nazi German propaganda or Western propaganda of that time and of our time. That allows it to work on people very far from Soviet reality or knowledge of USSR's history. (Of course, there were more intelligent levels of Soviet propaganda, they seem almost fully forgotten, include marxist dialectics, optimism of the future, dreams of a united peaceful planet of intelligent people using their lives for learning and creation, and no war and violence. Would be weird to expect tankies to be familiar with anything of that.)

You can't reason with people acting on vibes. Your comments' vibes for them are predefined, you don't affect them.

[–] endeavor@sopuli.xyz 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (5 children)

"holodomor is not a real genocide because stalin descided to just fucking let that specific group of people to fucking die from the famine that was fabricated through incompetence or other methods"

people making excuses for commie war crimes are same pieces of shit like those who make excuses for nazi war crimes. Literally a palette swap.

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[–] Chill_Dan@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

What do you mean by vibes exactly?

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Music, art style, socrealism in portraits. Soviet architecture (the monumental and decorative kind). All that.

[–] endeavor@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah people who know literally nothing about communism other than russian propaganda and dont know anyone who lived under communism tend to like it.

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[–] BarmyDeer@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 weeks ago

I mean, their name and description say it all. They appear to fuse two rather telling themes:

1- β€œHex” : as in the fraudulent cryptocurrency scheme launched by Richard Heart (real name: Richard James Schueler), a notorious spammer and lawbreaker who ultimately faced the consequences of his actions.

2- A shameful endorsement of communist-style authoritarianism : essentially, a system that violates basic human rights while promoting a fully centralised, stagnant, and corrupt regime devoid of meaningful technological progress.

Frankly, if I got banned from a place like that, I’d wear it as a badge of honour, LoL β—πŸ˜‚

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