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There's a reason most instances are de-fed from them. Play with fire and get burned I don't know what you expected. This post makes you seem either oblivious or knowing but still complaining.
It's not the only gaming community I'm subscribed to. It didn't stand out as being particularly problematic. If you look at its front page today, it's all about games and you won't be able to say it's done from a politicized perspective that would invite comments to the effect of "Russia good", let alone that Holodomor is a Nazi construct. Personally, I'm very open-minded and I try not to judge a book by its cover. In the thread, someone dismissed a source just because of their vibes rather than its content. I wouldn't do that.
They said Holodomor genocide is a nazi construct, in the thread itself they believe Holodomor is a result of government inefficiency and a natural disaster
Hmm, to them, it's like saying the American dustbowl was a genocide
Personally, I'm very open-minded and I try not to judge a book by its cover.
It's not just the cover, and now you know that. In fact, it's the cover that misled you.
Ukrainians have the same problem with neo-Nazis as other ex-Soviet countries.
Holodomor is a bit of a fuzzy matter, it's picking a part of the more wide scale events relating to Ukraine and calling it genocide of Ukrainian people, while genocide involves intention to wipe out an ethnic group.
This was more of Stalin's USSR treating people as expendable and hunger as acceptable when he needed the resources to build heavy industries for the military. Most of the grain producing areas of the USSR were in Ukraine and south of Russia, which is also where most of the victims were, because grain was taken by force according to planned norm and to fake reports (as it happens in such systems, administrators overreporting gains and underreporting losses).
So I somewhat feel strange when people talk of it like genocide example, but people arguing against that are usually worse, so let it be.
Anyway, the point of this comment was - those people don't even think of such things, they act purely on vibes. Most of Soviet propaganda was intended for people literate in the first-second generation, it relied on vibes even more than, say, Nazi German propaganda or Western propaganda of that time and of our time. That allows it to work on people very far from Soviet reality or knowledge of USSR's history. (Of course, there were more intelligent levels of Soviet propaganda, they seem almost fully forgotten, include marxist dialectics, optimism of the future, dreams of a united peaceful planet of intelligent people using their lives for learning and creation, and no war and violence. Would be weird to expect tankies to be familiar with anything of that.)
You can't reason with people acting on vibes. Your comments' vibes for them are predefined, you don't affect them.
"holodomor is not a real genocide because stalin descided to just fucking let that specific group of people to fucking die from the famine that was fabricated through incompetence or other methods"
people making excuses for commie war crimes are same pieces of shit like those who make excuses for nazi war crimes. Literally a palette swap.
What do you mean by vibes exactly?
Music, art style, socrealism in portraits. Soviet architecture (the monumental and decorative kind). All that.
Yeah people who know literally nothing about communism other than russian propaganda and dont know anyone who lived under communism tend to like it.
I mean, their name and description say it all. They appear to fuse two rather telling themes:
1- βHexβ : as in the fraudulent cryptocurrency scheme launched by Richard Heart (real name: Richard James Schueler), a notorious spammer and lawbreaker who ultimately faced the consequences of his actions.
2- A shameful endorsement of communist-style authoritarianism : essentially, a system that violates basic human rights while promoting a fully centralised, stagnant, and corrupt regime devoid of meaningful technological progress.
Frankly, if I got banned from a place like that, Iβd wear it as a badge of honour, LoL βπ