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I'm reading through the comments and, yeah, they really do. Holy shit what an insufferable bunch, especially that Seasonal_Peace guy.
What do you expect, it’s HexBear. They make ML look like neoliberals.
And now you know why most instances have defeated from hexbear. It’s extremely toxic.
Agreed, though I'm still not sure I'd defederate even after this incident. It may be best that we inform people of what Hexbear stands for and let them decide.
Incidents like that were not why they were defederated. Those were just the cherry on top. They were defederated because they would organize brigading on communities they had no direct control over. Ie couldn't just ban you as they did. For going against dogma. Grad was similar.
The main reason .ml is still federated is because they don't generally brigade. Despite having the same broken dogma. So it's sufficient to let people interact with them and learn as they recoil from being struck. When the vanguard strikes back against facts and reality. There's a very good chance you would get the same treatment there if you were to pierce the groupthink.
By the way, where would Andrew Eldritch stand on this issue? He's certainly in the know.
My nome de plume is more lovecraftian. As a child of the 70s and 80s as well as a goth. I certainly know the name. To be honest apart from generally having a leftward lean having come from the punk postpunk scenes. I really couldn't tell you much about his particular politics. I generally don't look to musicians for politics. They are just people like the rest of us . Far more often than one would like only disappointment is found. Other than that, Beyond him being musically inspired the only things I can really say about him. Mostly stemming from is history with Wayne and Patricia. Is that he is stubborn, a bit dickish, but dedicated.
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If they want to guzzle auth propaganda they can get it from the tap and make a hexbear grad or ml account. The fact that you genuinely though a mod would do something about holodomor denial on hexbear shows you don't fully understand what they're about and why numerous instances already defederated ages ago.
Yeah, in my mind, Holodomor is not a gray area at all, even though I've seen my share of pro-Putin people from the West. One of the first encounters I remember was back on Diaspora. Funnily in relation to this ban, I've done a lot of research into neo-Nazism, but probably not enough into those Hexbear type views.
Just lurk more political comms there (and grad) and you'll get an idea pretty quickly.
Nah, it's pretty simple, America bad, tell me what else to repeat, RT!
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Yah, that’s why people call them tankies. Any criticism of the USSR, or even acknowledging why people criticize it, is a banable offense.
The term tankie get’s thrown around a lot, to the point of dilution, but the origin of it comes from western communist who defended the Soviet Union putting down the 1956 Hungarian revolution, notably using T-54/55 tanks. It later came to mean western communist that would ignore or downplay any criticism of the USSR, as “propaganda”. These days it could even be applied more broadly to “People who call them selves left wing or communists but who will defend the actions of any authoritarian regime so long as it is notionally in opposition to the US and it’s allies” IE people who defended Assad and Putin.
I think hexbear fits even a fairly narrow older definition. Which is why most major instances are defederated from them.
long as it is notionally in opposition to the US and it’s allies
Man, I know I'm preaching to the choir here, but Russia isn't even opposed to the US, as long as the Christian white supremacist fascists are ruling things.
The sheer irony of people playing defense for a white supremacist fascist state and then accusing someone else of being a "fascist sympathizer". Like dawg the call is coming from inside the house.
I think the current Russian leadership has this detached fantasy of what America's far right are like, this idea that they're homebody rural folks who just want to keep to them selves and that if they're in charge the US will disengage it's self from the rest of the world, leaving Russia to treat Eastern Europe as a playground for their imperialism.
But the thing is, it ignores the agency of the eastern Europe to oppose them, and it ignores the fact that the the US far right is fundamentally narcissistic and egomaniacal. Ultimately the far right of the US will stay engaged in eastern Europe because they will perceive Russia telling them to get out as an insult and a humiliation. The only way the far right would disengage would be if they could frame it as them "winning" and that framing would be perceived as an insult and humiliation to the Russian leadership, so they won't allow it.
So they will come to genuinely hate each other. I don't think this will lead to the US far right suddenly deciding they care deeply about the well being of eastern Europe, but they also aren't going to disengage completely.
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It sounds like you finally learned about hexbear firsthand and don't have to rely on others' reports on their behavior.
putin sympathizes with elon nazi musk. I wonder what they think about him.
Musk can't be a nazi, he is white, loves trump, hates minorities, wants white power, supports putin and comes from a family with strong beliefs. There is no way mr putin would befriend nazis, as he is waging a war against invasion of nazis right this moment.
I think thats what they think.
*comrade putin
That's the funniest thing. Like, if you were an original Hungary-era tankie, at least you could say "the Soviet Union is the leader of the worldwide Communist movement, I believe what the SU says about itself." But Putin's Russia is explicitly not Communist or Socialist in any way. Putin's ideology is inconsistent but his public statements are all basically imperial or "blood and soil" nationalism. How do they twist this guy into being a "comrade?"
They will claim to hate him (and Trump), and then keep on regurgitating propaganda constructed in favour of him.
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Well, now you know why sensible admins defederate from this trash. I'd suggest using an app that allows you to block instances from your side and ignore them.
Post this over at !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works they love this kind of content.
Never heard of that, but I'll crosspost. Thanks! 😄
Hexbear tankies really are something incredible. I've been around left-wing politics most of my life and in the real world I've met like one or two people actually like them. Difficult to understand where they all came from. I'm thinking maybe it's a r/Pyongyang where it started as a joke and then they started taking it seriously.
I’m thinking maybe it’s a r/Pyongyang where it started as a joke and then they started taking it seriously.
I know. The same thing happened with The_Donald. It started out as a meme space. It's where Donnie as "The God Emperor" all started. But then people actually started taking it seriously.
So I guess we have Reddit to blame for the situation that America is in right now.
Thanks Reddit!
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I agree, most of the tankies we're plagued with online simply don't exist in irl leftist spaces, because no one likes them and most people in irl spaces understand that you don't get to call yourself a leftist and support authoritarianism in the same sentence.
If a tankie ever went public in the Baltics countries and said that shit out loud they would immediately get a well deserved beating. From some perspectives they're equivalent to nazi sympathizers because thats what they basically are.
I think they’re just the people who’ve gorged themselves on the most propaganda
I call them the MAGA of the left, they hate it, but they’re just as big of zealots for their own beliefs as MAGA is, they defend tyrants who’s values appear to align with theirs on paper and don’t understand the concept of nuance.
They believe in only black and white and the idea that gray exists, and the thought they could be (are) morally gray, along side almost everyone else, is intolerable to them, they have to be “Good”, no shades of gray allowed and the way they prove it to themselves is by constant virtue signaling and purging to stay on top of the imagined “morally pure” pyramid they’ve convinced themselves exist - a lot of them are ableist and don’t consider disabled people in their grand schemes
Life is messy, people are imperfect, they’re almost never a completely correct option that serves everyone equally. They want logic, which is simply making something internally consistent, context is irrelevant, they do not want philosophy which strives to incorporate as much context as possible in order to come to a conclusion
r/chapostraphouse, if that subreddit rings any bells. Lemmy was the place they came for refuge after getting nuked off of Reddit for brigading (shocking, I know).
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how can i remove hexbear, grad and ml from my lemmy? i use boost app. thx
In the app you can mute posts from instances, to also get rid of the users you need to use the webpage as someone else mentioned.
To mute the instance in the boost app go on the profile icon, lower right, settings (upper right), "Filters & blocks", there you should see the option "mute instances", type in the instance handle and posts from that instance shouldn't show up anymore.
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Getting banned from hexbear is your initiation into the broader world of lemmy. It happens to everyone who isn't a tankie at some point. Wear it with pride
Do yourself a favor and just block the entire instance from your profile settings. It's irredeemable.
Yeah I think Hexbear is the only big server sh.itjust.works defederated with, probably for the best. ML is bad but there's enough other people to water it down I suppose
Ml is bad, but I can imagine people who have honest opinions like that.
Hexbear is just rage and hate for trolling.
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Sounds about right for them. Sorry you had to go through that.
yeah duh, thats why we block the redfash triad
Some people there post burning flags of other countries and want the total destruction of them... "Death to country XY" being upvoted is as normal there as using toothpaste... Mods seem to support that and ban people who criticize it.
If we had only those people on the planet, there would be nothing but war.
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