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[–] Postmortal_Pop@lemmy.world 52 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Remember gang, if your ID has an l, g, b, t, or q on it you qualify as desperately in need of guns.

[–] blakenong@lemmings.world 29 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I just wish I had a gay gun owning friend who could go to the gun store with me. I know what I want, I just like hand holding.

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

No need, seriously don't buy at a gun store. Buy online and ship it to your big box store FFL, and then go pick up there.

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Hmmm

Internet credit card purchase,

Or

Backwoods shack cash purchase.

Hmmm.

Shit, you can buy guns at gas stations in my neck of the woods.

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

I buy most of mine used locally via our state gun forum. Most states have one, just go on there look around, meet up, pay cash, show CCW and done.

I've yet to purchase a firearm that was "used up". Most I buy people put a few hundred rounds through them at best.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (11 children)

Well, crap, I'm not gay, but I'll hold your hand. :) What do want? That's the interesting thing about guns, there is such a VARIETY for different purposes. Self defense, home defense, small/medium/big game hunting are all completely different.

If I'm going to raise my Kinsey scale a point or two for just a moment, there's also the aesthetic to consider. I'm not ashamed to admit I've bought a gun that made me go "Ooooohhh".

For example, when my dad died one of the guns I inherited was this:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Standard_Derringer

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And I'm like "Ok, that's adorable, but in .22 it's useless." Also known to be problematic. Sometimes only one barrel would fire.

But I liked the idea so I bought one of these:

https://www.bondarms.com/bond-arms-handguns/ranger-ii/

.45LC/.410 shotgun shells

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[–] Xaphanos@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I really like the idea of a 410 handgun, but I live in NY.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

.410 handguns are tricky in a lot of states because they're smoothbore, so they get classified as a short barreled shotgun and are considered illegal, the Bond Arms one above included.

Totally legal here, cross over into California? Yeah, not so much!

[–] Postmortal_Pop@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (3 children)

OK, that's adorable but in .22 it's useless

I'll tell you what the guy that taught me used to say, " 22 or 50, no one laughs at being held at gunpoint. "

Stopping power is, for the most part a myth. I love 22 because if cheap, it's light, and the guns feel nicer in my hand. My bud uses 9mm glocks because he describes them as the "iPhone of guns" you do you boo, just make sure your Deringer has a trigger guard, that's just good safety.

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[–] brygphilomena@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I inherited a NAA-22lr. It literally fits in the palm of my hand.

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They make a purple one now, which is cute: https://www.northamericanarms.com/shop/naa-22lr-orchid/

Even a .22 can kill someone.

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Better to hit with .22 than miss with a .357. The US Special Forces have been using .22 LR Ruger pistols, with silencers, since the Vietnam War.

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[–] ToastedRavioli@midwest.social 6 points 1 week ago

The gay gun, like a ray gun. I think they sell it at sharper image

[–] Postmortal_Pop@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

If you're in the Kansas area, hit me up, I'll go in drag if you ask nice lol

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[–] xyzzy@lemm.ee 41 points 1 week ago (4 children)

The Trump administration seems pretty confident these won't be used against them personally.

https://youtube.com/shorts/ekYplstlikU

[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 20 points 1 week ago

Well, they literally have a force feedback loop of propaganda aimed at themselves 24/7.

They think they own all 500 million guns in the US and they are all John J Rambo

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

That's a select fire switch which is a little different.

What this is about are Hellfire Triggers which are impossible to control. If you know what one looks like, you can make it yourself.

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[–] thallamabond@lemmy.world 40 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The history on this is interesting

Trump banned bump stocks as a reaction to the Vegas massacre.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-administration-issues-rule-banning-bump-stocks-year/story?id=59884493

Then the supreme court ruled that unconstitutional.

https://www.npr.org/2024/06/14/g-s1-2929/supreme-court-bump-stocks

Now the trump admin is going to permit more things like the bump stock to be sold legally. Specifically, something that makes a semi automatic gun fire much more rapidly.

[–] LMurch@thelemmy.club 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Would be a very Trumpian thing if he lost the civil uprising because of this decision.

[–] AngrySquirrel@lemm.ee 5 points 6 days ago

This really wouldn't make a difference. It isn't hard to bend a coat hanger or drill a third hole.

Also, FRTs and bump stocks are really just range toys.

[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)

All the other kids with their pumped up kicks

Sandy Hook 2 Electric Boogaloo. I can feel nothing but sorrow for the children of america's education system. Forget not Columbine, Sandy Hook, Uvalde, Virginia Tech, Parkland, Texas Tower, Red Lake, or Santa Fe.

[–] Mostly_Gristle@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

“We were going to win this,” said the former senior ATF official. “These things are not like bump stocks."

Forced reset devices are actually exactly like bump stocks in that they're legal because they force a distinct action of the trigger for every round fired. The legal definition of a machine gun is a firearm that fires more than one round per single action of the trigger. They haven't bothered to amend or expand that definition, so these types of devices keep skirting by on a technicality.

I suppose the argument could be made that forced reset devices work in a very similar way to a machine gun's auto sear, the difference being that they act on the trigger of the gun rather than the hammer, but it still doesn't meet the government's own definition of a machine gun.

[–] 5in1k@lemm.ee 4 points 1 week ago

The ATF is a s terrifying joke.

[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 17 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Wasn't the bump stock banned by Trump after the Vegas shooting? Then unbanned under Biden?

[–] OmegaMan@lemmings.world 20 points 6 days ago (7 children)

Supreme Court unbanned it 6-3. Not really Biden's call.

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[–] Pnut@lemm.ee 16 points 6 days ago

I get gun enthusiasm. Like, as a hobby. Those folks that hang out at the range are as nerdy as the folks that hang out at the model airplane club. This isn't for them. This is for the baddies. It's strange considering that Trump had a close attempt on his life involving a gun with iron sights. You would think he would want to be the last person involved in approving more effective people killers.

[–] Cornpop@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Nice I’ve been wanting a FRT. machine guns aren’t very good for mass shootings. All your ammo is gone instantly and you’re way less accurate. It’s good for suppressing fire, and fun in the backyard. This is not going to lead to more gun deaths.

[–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

Let us not forget... an FRT doesn't even constitute a "machine gun" by their own definition!

[–] TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (7 children)

I like how you are acting like most of us haven't played an FPS. The biggest difference is that there is no balance nerf between the damage an automatic bullet does and a semiautomatic bullet does. It's certainly leading to more gun deaths in Mexico, where a lot of these weapons are getting exported down to, although it is refreshing to act like school shootings still aren't a thing.

I fully expect for police to have to fear being "suppressive fired" soon enough, there are enough militant groups within the US that will enjoy the news, specially given the number of their members that were pardoned for Jan 6th.

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[–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Before I read the article, I’m going to go with “bump stocks” as the device. Let’s find out if I’m right…

[–] orclev@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Nope although they do get a mention. Apparently in this case it's forced reset triggers. Saying they allow a semi-auto gun to fire like a full-auto is a bit of a stretch though, even more so than for a bump stock.

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[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 10 points 1 week ago

This will help his pardoned militia in 3 years

[–] not_that_guy05@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] PagPag@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Just ordered one for my pistol. Will be a fun (and stupid) way to mag dump a drum.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

In other countries they sell modified versions of these handguns that cannot be made into machine guns with a switch. This is the real solution, but for some reason gun manufacturers can do no wrong in the US and are not held to higher safety standards.

[–] LucidiaDiamond@lemm.ee 7 points 6 days ago

In Belgium, of all places, you can buy fully auto weapons from shops with just a collectors license.

[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 4 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Do you have evidence to support that? Because AFAIK, the Glocks made both in the US and Austria have exactly the same design. OTOH, in most of Europe, it's very difficult to get the appropriate license for a handgun, so it's largely irrelevant.

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[–] Guns0rWeD13@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago

that means YOU can buy one too.

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

There are plenty of untrained idiots that will end shooting up a ceiling or the sky.

[–] Sunflier@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Good luck kids going to school in the United States

[–] BlueEther@no.lastname.nz 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

so you can turn a simi into a functionally auto rifle but you cant put a suppressor on it?

[–] thallamabond@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

No suppressor, no super long mags, no belt feed, no barrel mounted grenade launcher, no incendiary rounds.

What is and what is not legal is funny in the US

[–] BlueEther@no.lastname.nz 7 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I'm commenting from New Zealand where we have real restrictions on semi rifles, but can own as many suppressors as we like

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