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[–] BlueEther@no.lastname.nz 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

so you can turn a simi into a functionally auto rifle but you cant put a suppressor on it?

[–] thallamabond@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

No suppressor, no super long mags, no belt feed, no barrel mounted grenade launcher, no incendiary rounds.

What is and what is not legal is funny in the US

[–] BlueEther@no.lastname.nz 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm commenting from New Zealand where we have real restrictions on semi rifles, but can own as many suppressors as we like

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

In the USA, a suppressor magically makes the firearm deadly silent, so the ATF had to regulate them into NFA items which is bullshit. Also blame Hollywood.

[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Wut?

No, silencers weren't regulated into the NFA by the ATF; congress put them in there, way back in '34. You can read the text of the act here. It's in the very first section:

AN ACT

To provide for the taxation of manufacturers, importers, and dealers in certain firearms and machine guns, to tax the sale or other disposal of such weapons, and to restrict importation and regulate interstate transportation thereof.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of American in Congress assembled, that for the purposes of this Act -

(a) The term "firearm" means a shotgun or rifle having a barrel of less than eighteen inches in length, or any other weapon, except a pistol or revolver, from which a shot is discharged by an explosive if such a weapon is capable of being concealed on the person, or a machine gun, and includes a muffler or silencer for any firearm [emphasis added] whether or not such a firearm is included within the foregoing definition.

It's right there in the text.

Aside from that, the ATF per se didn't even exist prior to '72; before that, it was part of the IRS, rather than an agency within the DoJ, and before the IRS, it was part of the Bureau of Internal Revenue.

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

Correct, I'm more so speaking broadly. Since the ATF is the ones that handle the tax stamp for them. I wasn't exactly trying to go into specifics on the topic. Just that the ATF is the ones doing the song and dance now with the NFA being its "fuck you" paper.

[–] seaQueue@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Eagle screech fades into high pitch whine