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The Food and Drug Administration on Tuesday announced it will begin the process of pulling prescription fluoride drops and tablets for children off the market. The supplements are usually given to kids at high risk for cavities.

The federal government and some state legislatures are increasingly drawing attention to what they claim are the risks associated with fluoride, a mineral that’s been used for decades in community water systems, toothpastes and mouth rinses to prevent tooth decay.

Dentists fiercely contest the notion that the harms of fluoride outweigh the benefits.

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[–] Arghblarg@lemmy.ca 145 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (35 children)

This is even more nuts than removing fluoride from municipal water systems. At least with that, parents who believe the science that their kids' teeth will be better off with targeted fluoride treatment can buy the drops and tablets, and those who are afraid for some reason can choose to just not use it.

This is just trying to ban access to fluoride entirely, despite research showing its benefits and the distinct lack of significant harm. Madness.

What next, are they going to criminalize sending fluoride drops/pills through the mail, like mifepristone?

Calgary, AB Canada removed fluoride and a decade later added it back after seeing the effects of its absence.

[–] minnow@lemmy.world 47 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

This is just trying to ban access to fluoride entirely

Well yeah. These are extremists, absolutists, radicals. Their dogma must be simple and without exceptions. If they admit even one scenario where fluoride has more benefits than deficits, their whole ideology and worldview crumbles. Nuance is an existential threat.

[–] Eximius@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Narcissism as a fascist dictatorship of a whole country.

The mechanisms of narcissism and of cults are remarkably similar.

[–] chaosCruiser@futurology.today 13 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

You could make a great movie about the fluoride prohibition of the 2020s.

[Opening shot: A dark, rain-slicked cityscape. Neon signs flicker. A child’s toothbrush lies abandoned in a puddle.]

Narrator (gravelly voice): In a world where fluoride is forbidden…

[Cut to a sleek black SUV speeding through a checkpoint. Inside, a woman in a lab coat loads a capsule into a hidden compartment behind a false toothpaste tube.]

Narrator: …one syndicate dares to keep the smiles alive.

[Cue dramatic music. A warehouse door slams open. Inside: crates of fluoride tablets, glowing faintly blue. Armed guards in dental scrubs patrol the perimeter.]

Agent Plaque (sternly): “They’re dosing kids in back-alley clinics. We need to shut them down—permanently.”

[Montage: high-speed chases through suburban cul-de-sacs, a drone crashing into a jungle gym, a slow-motion shot of a fluoride pill flying through the air and landing in a glass of water.]

The Molar (smirking): “You can take the fluoride out of the pharmacies… but you can’t take the sparkle out of the people.”

[Cue epic music drop. Explosions. A toothbrush sword fight. A child grinning with unnaturally white teeth.]

Narrator: This summer… the fight for dental freedom begins.

FLUORIDE WARS: THE SPARKLE SYNDICATE

Coming soon to a theater near you. Brush responsibly.

[–] leftzero@lemmynsfw.com 11 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

You could make a great movie about the fluoride prohibition

We already have one: Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb.

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[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 8 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

They just banned it in Florida, with Meatball DeSatan calling it "forced medication," and that if parents want their kids to have fluoride, they can give it to them. Now they want to ban those products, too.

So now we're just going to reconfigure our entire society to indulge the fantasies of conspiracy theory weirdos?

[–] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 2 points 13 minutes ago

So now we're just going to reconfigure our entire society to indulge the fantasies of conspiracy theory weirdos?

Until Americans get off their couch and do something, yes.

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[–] kescusay@lemmy.world 80 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

RFK Jr. strikes again. I'll never understand why people like him can't grasp the idea that the difference between medicine and poison is often dosage.

The amount of fluoride in these tablets is nowhere near unsafe levels. It's not even close.

[–] Nollij@sopuli.xyz 52 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

He literally doesn't believe in germ theory.

And I don't mean 'literally' as in 'figuratively'. He genuinely doesn't believe in the most basic element of modern health and medicine.

You can't expect him to then grasp something as nuanced as dosage.

[–] alaphic@lemmy.world 34 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Dude took his grandkids swimming in a sewage infested waterway... I mean, you expect someone like that to have even the loosest grasp of anything resembling nuance?

[–] Chozo@fedia.io 22 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

I really hope an amoeba finishes what the worm started.

[–] alaphic@lemmy.world 9 points 6 hours ago

That poor worm clearly starved to death

[–] PillBugTheGreat@lemmy.world 6 points 8 hours ago

Water isn't warm enough for them yet

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 hours ago

Because understanding that would mean his heroin addiction was his own fault, not the heroin's fault.

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 19 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

So - this started as a John Bircher thing right?

I’ve just been befuddled at the purpose and the point of this conspiracy theory. I guess Alex Jones’s dad is a dentist (and a Bircher) but I doubt that dentists conspire for us to have bad teeth.

Just generic “I don’t like the gubmit”? Was it a Jewish person who suggested that we improve dental health on a population level? What’s the initial bit of skin or hair that this stupid booger coalesced around?

I guess these weirdos have always been around. We just didn’t put them in charge of health.

[–] renzev@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

I doubt that dentists conspire for us to have bad teeth.

People with bad teeth is literally their main revenue stream?! I wouldn't put it past them.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 7 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

They try to make Americans weak, sick, and dead on all fronts. As of the US government was under control of a hostile country.

If Trump is a Russian sabatour he's doing a fantastic job.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 6 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

if you visit any of the reviews of FLOURIDE-free toothpaste, you can tell at least some of them have reported cavaties.

[–] renzev@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

I once tried brushing my teeth with baking soda instead of toothpaste for a few weeks. From what I understand, they have about the same level of abrasiveness, so they should be about as good at scrubbing the gunk out of your teeth. The key difference is that toothpaste has fluoride in it. After a while I started having pain/irritation in my mouth and gums. It went away when I went back to toothpaste. So if anyone was looking for anecdotal evidence of fluoride being good for your teeth, there you go.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 hours ago

I brush with Nano-hydroxyapitite for like 3 weeks and then do flouride for a couple weeks. I don't think results happen that quickly.

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[–] tal@lemmy.today 3 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (6 children)

Oh, cute.

I commented before that one can get 5 gallon bottled fluoridated water, and would like to again point that out. The fluoride may not be as concentrated as in these prescription-level things, but it's available. Can throw it on a water cooler.

Brick-and-mortar pickup:

https://www.arrowheadwater.com/products/where-to-buy

Delivery:

https://www.readyrefresh.com/en/products/arrowhead-spring-water-delivery/arrowhead-5-gallon-water-with-fluoride/p/1311

It looks like there are also some other brands, like Ozarka, but Arrowhead's what I've used.

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